Under this scenario Russia would have military and economic control of occupied Ukraine under its own governing body, imitating Israel’s de facto rule of Palestinian territory seized from Jordan in 1967.
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Witkoff, who is also tasked by Trump with bringing peace to the Middle East, is understood to support the idea, which the Americans believe circumvents barriers in the Ukrainian constitution to ceding territory without holding an “all-Ukraine” referendum.
I literally had an Israel defender on reddit agree that black people under apartheid should have accepted it for “peace”. I live in south Africa, fuck Nazis, even the Jewish ones.
Irony: Jewish people in SA were a big part of anti-apartheid efforts; all the while Israel was apartheid’s biggest mate (after Thatcher and Reagan got cold feet of course, don’t feel too righteous in the anglosphere).
Yeah, Reddit is super weird. There are a bunch of rabidly pro-Israel people who have infiltrated its world news communities in exactly the way that some Lemmy people love to imagine that they have done on Lemmy.