• Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Nothing good has ever come from conservatism. Nothing.

    Conservatism is a disease long overdue for a cure.

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      They’re regressive, as in the opposite of progressive. Really there are just so many fucked uo things about the philosophy it’s hard to know where to start. The rosy view of the past is one of the worst, alongside the rabid nationalism - and hypocrisy. They worship wealthy businesspeople who couldn’t give less of a fuck about the US vs. other countries while acting like they are MOST PATRIOTIC.

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      11 months ago

      I sat in on a capstone review for a Masters history program and one of the topics was how Conservatism led to the Fall of Rome and the Dark Ages. It had a lot of merit.

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      I didn’t think it can ever be cured, but conservatives need to be kept out of power at all cost. It’s an ongoing struggle.

      And in case anyone thinks I sound like a tankie, “at all cost” doesn’t include things like throwing out democracy or violating human rights; preserving democracy and defending human rights are the main reasons conservatives need to be sidelined.

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        Somewhere along the line, conservationism became synonymous with stagnation.

        I am not sure if it was the tea party movement or what. But there was this idea that America was perfect and never had to change,

        Then it became the Anti-Democrat party. Where they didn’t care about the details, they just didn’t want to work with them.

        Eventually, they took the long way around the logical train, and ended at tyranny. Ask any conservative if they think they are a Nazi, and they would proudly claim no. Ask them if it is okay to put kids in separate cages on the Mexico boarder, suddenly it’s not even a question, it’s our duty.

        What we are seeing in congress right now, are the cracks showing on that system. I know most people wouldn’t know why I would be excited for that. But it means the old system of thought is breaking. It is tearing, and grinding against itself, which can only mean that change is coming, whether people want it or not.

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          What we are seeing in congress right now, are the cracks showing on that system. I know most people wouldn’t know why I would be excited for that. But it means the old system of thought is breaking. It is tearing, and grinding against itself, which can only mean that change is coming, whether people want it or not.

          Yeah, except those people are in a better position to capitalize on change. That’s why I’m not excited.

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      Thing is, GOP is not conservative. They do not actually exhibit the “conservative values” that they claim.

      Protect families and ensure they have healthy communities to raise their children in? Nope, that would be “socialism”.

      Promote morality, modesty, and decency? Nah, GOP politicians exemplify immorality, immodesty, and indecency in their personal lives and their public behavior, from Trump to Boebert to Jordan.

      Encourage private charity? No — well, maybe as a means of tax evasion.

      Obey the dictates of Christianity? Definitely not; Jesus was “woke”.

      Protect the free market? Not when it interferes with capital accumulation by political supporters, fraud by political supporters, or the interests of foreign enemies.

      Prevent crime? Nah, need crime to justify police violence.

      Investigate and punish shameful crimes against innocent girls? No, testing the rape-kit backlogs would be “woke feminism” (and we might find Matt Gaetz’s DNA in there). Millions for SWAT teams; zero for prosecuting actual offenders with actual evidence!

      Respect the classical, educated heritage of Western culture? No, education is “woke” too, and so are cultural institutions like universities, orchestras, museums, galleries, the Catholic Church,

      Honor the military? Nah, disabled veterans are lame and ugly, get them out of sight (and cut their benefits).

      Respect the flag, surely? Nope, desecrate it into a symbol of police violence.

      Secure the nation against enemies? No, America must be weakened so that Russia may rise.

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      In this case it is regressivism. (E) and it seems to be an inescapable facet of human nature.

      I have this idea/fantasy that regressivism and authoritarianism, greed and many other behaviors that are the worst of humanity are due to childhood trauma and that if we are able to somehow eliminate 99% of it, we will eliminate almost all the shitbags and live in a comparative utopia. (I mean aside from the world being destroyed by global warming but anyway). I have zero evidence to support this but it gives me the tiniest sliver of comfort to think this might be possible. Of course it is possible that some people are just assholes genetically. Or maybe it is a combination of genetics and environment. But whatever.

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      There is a positive we could get from it, people self diagnosing that they are no longer fit to make choices for other people

      When your best idea to fix issues is to say that the old problematic system doesn’t seem as problematic anymore means you are either lying or just nostalgic to getting beaten with a belt