cross-posted from: https://linux.community/post/3389091

or to keep the peace, maybe you think it’s not a big deal but your partner, friend, coworker, parent feels otherwise.

Do you apologize just to validate him?

I always though if I don’t feel bad about it, fuck it, I’m not apologizing, deal with it. It’s not my fault you’re so thin skinned. Grow up.

Now I’m thinking I should be more empathetic and apologize, just to make the aggravated person feel validated, even though I don’t feel bad (or that bad).

This gets more complicated because many times coworkers feel offended because I don’t share my personal life with them or I’m so concentrated on my job that I don’t notice them. Do I apologize for not noticing them?

  • aufbau161@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    i do that a lot, with customer communication (especially via mail but also on the phone). i makes the other person feel seen, they are usually in a better mood afterwards and more likely to do business with us again, cost me nothing, is a good practice to lie (since it’s not actually my/our fault).

    would be very careful though about doing it in a relationship, would probably only do it, if i really really cared for the other person and see the situation itself as sorted out and 100% forgave them, otherwise such falsehood might lead to trouble.

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    I don’t even apologize when I am wrong, instead I just sit alone alot and think about all the friends I used to have.

    :')

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    The less I expect of/need from the person, the more willing I am to apologise just to “keep the peace” or help them feel better. After 6 years of working front desk jobs, it comes naturally to me to empathize and throw a “I’m really sorry, I understand” here and there too, lol.

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    I’m Canadian, so… kinda, I apologize for everything.

    I regularly see interactions where one person makes a mistake and both people apologize.

    I’ve seen it sometimes where no one makes a mistake and both people apologize.

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      I’m loving all the Canadians in this thread.

      If you’re a kind person, there’s always something to apologize for. I was taught a long time ago that it was OK to apologize, but that you should add " for…" to the end and if it still sounds OK then you should say it.

      “I’m sorry for hurting your feelings.” “I’m sorry that you don’t enjoy the meal that I prepared for the family.” “I’m sorry your face looks like an anus.” “I’m sorry that you’re too stupid to understand that I’m not complimenting you.” …and so on. This took an unexpected turn.

      PS: I’ll apologize in most confrontations as a way to de-escalate the situation.

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        Most of the time here its just a quick “Sorry” and maybe a head nod. Its not meant as a full blown apology, its more like a way to quickly communicate you’re not a complete asshole.

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      apparently in canada saying “sorry” is no longer considered an admission of guilt, legally, since people say it too much.

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    I’m Canadian. Sorry comes out of my mouth without thinking.

    Actually, sometimes I’ll instinctively say sorry and then say it again when my brain decides it’s actually warrented because I’m worried the first one wasn’t sincere.

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    I only apologize if i mean it. But I do mean it when I say “I’m sorry for how my actions have impacted you as that was not my intention.”

    Sometimes people are hurt because of something that’s not entirely fair to expect of someone else. That’s reality. And I’m sorry that we’re not more aligned. If I have to establish a boundary for my own well being I’m not enjoying the difficulty someone else may have with that, but I prioritize myself out of necessity because I an the only one who I can expect to do so.

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    In principle, I wouldn’t. In practice, it’s gotten better over the past few years, but I’m still sometimes a bit of a people-pleaser. Sometimes it’s reflexive and I’ll have to catch myself before a wayward “sorry” slips out of my mouth.

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    I sometimes do with my partner, but it’s not genuine and she catches up on it too and knows when it’s not genuine. I feel like you shouldn’t force yourself to apologise just for the sake of apologising, but try and validate the feelings of the person you’re apologising to and try to get to the bottom of what’s caused the hurting to begin with. Communication is key as always.

    Then again, it’s different depending on who I’m apologising to. If it’s a person I don’t have too much contact with or with whom I’m not on a super personal level, I’ll apologise out of decency or social obligation but not necessarily because I’m genuinely sorry, if that makes sense?

    Depends on the context as well as my and the other person’s mental wellbeing and the relationship we share.

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    As a Canadian I would consider someone that doesn’t apologize to be a little rude, even if they have nothing to do with the event, but our definition of sorry is a bit different than other english speakers.

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    Yeah I do its a habbit, I’m not sure if it’s a good thing though because the word sorry loses its weight if everyone says it without really meaning anything.

    Also a lot of people should say sorry and mean it more often, I make this mistake too it’s so easy to get court in an argument with someone and start fighting for the purpose of winning. Sometimes you need to take a step back and consider that the other side is actually making a really good point and that you might be wrong.