still hella confused as to why self-proclaimed privacy advocates—even teams like @privacyguides—are pushing @element so hard despite the data collection & sharing practices, the loosey-goosey metadata usage, and the fact that they host on AWS.

  • sp6@lemmy.worldEnglish
    18·
    11 months ago

    Just a quick glance at all of those:

    -Briar, Tox, and Cwtch don’t have iOS clients

    -SimpleX doesn’t have a desktop GUI has issues with big groups (see comment below)

    -Session has a 100-person group chat limit

    -Syphon’s own github states they are “still in alpha and we do not recommend using it where proven and independently verified security is required.” Plus, they haven’t had a release in over a year, so I’m not sure it’s still maintained.

    Element (or most Matrix clients) don’t have any of those issues. Like I said, it’s not perfect, but I see why it’s recommended. All decent alternatives have significant downsides

      • sp6@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        11 months ago

        Oh nice! Although, one issue from their website:

        “Every message and file gets sent separately to every member in the group”

        That seems fine for small groups, but for the typical Element crowd of large groups, I don’t think that would go over well. If you send a 10MB file in a 2000-person chat, you’d be uploading 20GB of data…

          • sp6@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            11 months ago

            Revolt is certainly better than Discord’s privacy, but since it doesn’t yet have E2EE, it doesn’t seem like very privacy-focused software

              • Mark :debian: :tux: :python:@fosstodon.org
                0·
                11 months ago

                @whale
                That’s what I read after installing the app (on a trash device).

                Not that I’m using it for anything nefarious, but if you’re going to claim 100% privacy, I think offering ‘discovery’ services for popular groups goes very much against that.

                In all fairness, I removed it shortly after discovering that… so maybe other users who have stuck around can clarify… I dont mind admitting I read that incorrectly.