It sure is better than it would be if all the vegans and vegetarians were consuming meat. More importantly, fewer sentient animals that feel pain and fear have been abused and killed.
Killing is, so that’s sufficient to prove my point.
In 99% of other cases (meat produced via factory farming), yes other widespread abuses have also been proven. You’re engaging this discussion in bad faith by denying simple truths
But killing things unnecessarily is cruel. So, best to just avoid it. Added benefit is that it’s significantly better for the environment.
didn’t you try being vegan? the environment isn’t any better.
It sure is better than it would be if all the vegans and vegetarians were consuming meat. More importantly, fewer sentient animals that feel pain and fear have been abused and killed.
not only can this not be proven, it implies pain, fear, and abuse are inherent to animal husbandry, but they are not.
Killing is, so that’s sufficient to prove my point.
In 99% of other cases (meat produced via factory farming), yes other widespread abuses have also been proven. You’re engaging this discussion in bad faith by denying simple truths
obviously, killing is part of animal husbandry, but the rest is not inherent to it.
this can’t be proven
Sure can. Take average meat consumption per capita, multiply by number of folks who don’t eat meat. Bing bang boom. Again, bad faith
your accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith.
you can’t prove a counterfactual. what you’re doing is conjecture.
If there are fewer people consuming something, less of it will be consumed. I’m not sure what else to tell you, man
That’s not causal.
Oh, OK
What’s better for the environment? Eating mass produced vegatables? Anything mass produced isn’t sustainable.
People have to eat. That’s the bottom line. What we eat and how we eat is important.
Good question. Yes, eating mass produced veggies is better for the environment (and less systemic cruelty) then eating meat.