• AlexLost@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    But we do, and we must insist upon democratic ideals until the very last. Even when our boots hit the streets and the lines are drawn. If we sink to their level, we’ll lose. They’ve been there a long time, they are seasoned pros. The problem is they use that against us, so we need to play a smarter game. Not dumb ourselves down to their level.

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      23 hours ago

      The paradox of tolerance is a philosophical concept suggesting that if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance; thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance. This paradox was articulated by philosopher Karl Popper in The Open Society and Its Enemies (1945),[1] where he argued that a truly tolerant society must retain the right to deny tolerance to those who promote intolerance.

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        20 hours ago

        Yes, I agree with this. That doesn’t say take away democracy to preserve it though. That’s talking about tolerance and censorship, which I agree with. If we believe in democracy, we must put our faith into it. I’m not suggesting we ignore great evils, but I am suggesting we don’t become evil to fight evil, because becoming the thing you hate just to fight it means you end up fighting yourself. You’ve lost. You’ve proven your ideal is no ideal at all.

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          19 hours ago

          What you’re saying is shit we’re fed by comic books and Hollywood. In the real world when you’re dealing with real psychopaths and where they have overwhelmingly taken control of government via decscdes of surpression lies and propaganda, the comic book logic doesn’t work.

          In the movies, the bad guy always pays for his transgressions.

          In the real world a child rapists, treasonus piece of shit has been re-elected. Twice…

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            40 minutes ago

            You get the country you fight for. People drive policy. It was allowed to get this bad because people were too busy and distracted to care about what was happening “over there”. Now it’s all come home to roost. Movies, comic books and plain old books teach us these things because they are what humans do, not in fantasy, but in reality. They tell us truths we don’t want to see, and the blue prints for how to fight this kind of injustice are there too, even in your own goddamn history books. Organized protest and civil unrest are your main options. Hit them where it hurts, in their pocket books. “They” are nothing without “us”.