NEW YORK — It’s no laughing matter when it comes to how Jerry Seinfeld feels about what he seemingly believes is the lesser of two evils. During a Duke University event on Tuesday, the Emmy-winning comedian compared the Free Palestine movement to the Ku Klux Klan. He even went so far as to say that people who use the phrase “Free Palestine” are worse than the white supremacist group. Seinfeld ...
Stop watering down the term. Yucky? Sure. Pedophile? No.
Emphasis mine. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia.
He’s a type A fucking creep and a pederast if you want to get technical about it.
A little further down:
I quoted the psychiatric definition on purpose.
The general population has a tendency of diluting medical, mostly psychiatric, terms, either rendering them meaningless (see people describing themselves as having OCD because they are quirky) or even turning them into slurs (see various names for intellectual disabilities, like “imbecile”, “idiot” and so on).
I have an issue with that specifically. I replied to someone else why stretching the age from “prepubescent” to “below the legal age of consent” (hell, some poster even suggested “below the legal age of majority even if the legal age of consent is lower”) bugs me.
So basically below 16
Yes, and due to usage, “literally” now means “figuratively”, effectively diluting the word and making it useless. Plenty of us aren’t pedophiles but rather pedants and autists who just want to see things be said correctly and clearly. By the new definition, an 18yo having sex with a 17yo would be a pedophile too, but does that really seem accurate?
If we start exaggerating everything then soon we will be as bad as the other side that does it for literally everything as well(am I being serious or hyperbolic with my use of “literally” here? See how it’s unclear?)
Again, tiring to have to say this, but I don’t support pedophiles. I just support clear, accurate language. Call it the horrible thing it is, but call it the right thing. Be accurate in your insults lest you just become “the boy who cried wolf”. Use the word too carelessly and it loses its deservedly negative meaning.
Edit: For example, it would be better to call Jerry a “gross, sleazy pervert who preys on emotionally immature/vulnerable girls to take advantage of them”. You can be plenty insulting, descriptive, AND accurate. “Pervert” was already right there and definitely doesn’t have a positive meaning.
Second Edit: also, “local age of consent” means that in some places where the age is lower, say 13/14, it’s NOT pedophilia by the new definition even if the person had delayed puberty. So some actual pedophilia wouldn’t even be pedophilia with the new definition. It’s an appeal to authority rather than science.
The nature of language is to change over time. Help yourself to internalize that and a lot of these things may become less stressful.
Your attempt to use a non-inflammatory example doesn’t really work: “literally” has meant “exaggeratedly” for at least the past 200 years (likely more, it’s just been used extensively with that meaning for 200y).
If you try to demand that language have strict meaning, it’s just not going to work. Watch:
What’s the definition of “girl”? Do they need to be prepubescent? Pre-postpubescent? Or are you using it in the (gasp, shock) sloppy sense of “a girl or a woman”? You’ve fallen into the exact same pitfall that you were complaining about.
The resolution isn’t to claim that all words have an absolute meaning, but to understand that human language is fluid and extraordinarily context-sensitive.
Cool so if anything can mean whatever we want then you’re a cantaloupe. I just redefined the word to mean people like you. I’m not wrong, language evolves!
Yeah, we can play these stupid games, but we just become dumber in the process.
Creep, pervert, degenerate, abuser… The words are there. We don’t need to co-opt another. All you’ll do is speed up the euphemism treadmill. Once pedophile is meaningless, you’ll have to come up with a whole new word to describe it and just start the process over again. But sure, have fun reinventing words that already exist because your vocabulary is so diminutive that you lack other coherent verbiage to describe how you feel.
Also, don’t we deride the other side for spouting rhetoric to twist things to meet the definitions they want? So why is it ok for us to do the same? This is just the clown meme. You’re following their exact playbook while wearing a red nose and poofy hair and claiming you’re somehow different and superior.
Nah, you’re just a bunch of gaggling morons too. Imbeciles. Mouth breathers. Mentally deficient. See how language can be fun? Look at all these insults I have available to me and not once did I resort to calling you something like a “dragon fucker” just to sound outlandish. I used accurate descriptions of your lack of mental ability and reasoning skills.
Maybe try that?
We are dealing with morally & ethically bankrupt people who want to throw away the rule of law. What do you expect from these cretins ?
I guess we’ll have to wait until someone pedo-smears them. Which is disgusting. But you try explaining that to these non-humans.
Pot of crabs… were just a giant pot of crabs pulling each other back in.
But we can climb out. Let the rest of the crabs rot in the hell they created.
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Dude, nothing’s creepier than people who are eager to argue about the exact definition of pedophile.
How’s that moral high ground, dude? Feeling good about yourself? Calling me creepy, knowing fuck all about me.
I replied to others what’s my issue with people diluting the term, just in case you give a shit.
& nothings more disgusting than twisting legality to engage in sadism.
It won’t be fun when it happens to you. Actually; why stop there ? Take away due-process too while you’re at it & burn your bill of rights
This current administration is currently doing the whole no due process and attempting to burn the bill of rights. And they are also pedos. So what is actually your point?
Don’t become like them. That’s my point, unless you are already.
This isn’t something to be pedantic about. You’re not solving any problems by protecting a child-raping billionaire from misused words. Don’t be a bad human, please.
I’m not protecting anyone, that is not my intent at all. Hell, I couldn’t care less about American celebs or whoever this guy is.
My issue is literally in the first sentence. Watering down the term doesn’t help victims of actual child sexual abuse. I’d argue it’s actually harmful.
Man didnt read the entire wikipedia or conveniently forgot that 17 is still considered a child in the US
Depends on the state. 18 is age of consent in California, most movies and TV come from California, so 18 is the age everyone thinks of. So a guy can be a pedophile for wanting to have sex with 16 year olds in one state, cross state lines, and suddenly be perfectly legal.
It is federal law that you are a minor until you hit 18 The age of consent in each state has absolutely no bearing on if you are a minor or not.
True. So he’d be Schrodinger’s pedo depending on whether it’s federal or state law.
Man “conveniently” referred to the psychiatric definition. Because the “sexual attraction to a person below the legal age of consent” definition is
a) harmful to victims of actual child sexual abuse (in my opinion);
b) geographically-dependent. In Europe the age of consent is 16, for example. According to the other posters, there are states in the US where it is lower than 18.
30 states have an unrestricted age of consent at 16. Only 7 have it at 17 and 13 have it at 18.
Maybe educate yourself before calling someone out with something blatantly proven wrong.
And in the united states by federal law a minor is anyone under the age of 18.
The fact youre really arguing about age of consent being relevant here is super creepy.
You sure youre not diddling a child?
I literally read the Wikipedia article you chastised the other person for not reading. I’m sorry if facts offend you.
Eat shit troll. When the right does this it’s “propaganda and reprehensible” but when you do it it’s “justified by the ends”. You’re no better than them spouting bullshit to fit your narrative regardless of facts.
Maybe reread my comments - I can Jerry Seinfeld a disgusting pervert who takes advantage of emotionally immature and vulnerable girls. Notice how I call him out for being a piece of shit and don’t lie at the same time? It’s possible.
Learn more words you retard. Don’t be mad at others because their vocabulary is better than yours and they can express themselves more eloquently than your backwards ass.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/minor
You seem angry and like you cant read
Whats the deal with girlfriends? You pick them up from school, and all they talk about is homework, and who’s going to the school dance! Don’t girlfriends know people who oppose genocide are worse then the KKK?
actually if its not from the pedophile region, otherwise it’s just sparkling child abuse
you and that other weirdo in this thread really need to check yourselves
Ad hominem. How refreshing. Yawns. You’ll get right along with that
.blahaj.zoneguy/gal/NB-person in the replies.What is a “pedophile region”, anyway? Epstein’s Island? And what’s with that “otherwise”? Are you saying that pedophilia in “pedophile regions” is NOT child abuse? You should work on articulating your thoughts better, it’s challenging to understand what you’re trying to say.
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Wow a morally & ethically-sound person on lemmy that respects the rule of law.
You are a rarity, sir/madam