Investigators are still looking through evidence and trying to determine a motive in the slaying.
The only things in writing are the words etched into the bullets, and those are mixed. He wrote an anti-fascist statement on a bullet casing and other text on others, but nothing to indicate he had liberal or conservative ideologies. If anything, he appeared to be mostly mad at the whole system.
Honestly with this administration, I have a difficult time believing any evidence they provide. The head of the FBI is a fucking podcaster who was able to lie profusely to the point that he caught Trump’s attention. That must take a lot of lying.
They say the truth can’t get it’s pants on before a lie made it around the world, but I love Lemmy cause mfers come with sources within minutes or hours
In the game where that code is from, you play as a human soldier fighting for a starship troopers-esque over the top obviously fascist but played for laughs Super Earth Government, and they routinely call the bug aliens fascist while calling in bombing runs on them.
“Notices bulges OwO what’s this?” is used within the groypers to make fun of furries, as well as when they are (ugh I hate that I’m about to say this word) “transvestigating”, which is when they “investigate” whether someone is trans or not. Also see “If you read this, you are gay LMAO”
Bella ciao is also used ironically within the groypers.
If it was the only thing there… Sure. Its not though, its one of several things, which all have one very specific context - groypers.
Context is always important.
Edit: Forgot to add - with Helldivers 2, the joke is you’ve got fascists dropping bombs while saying they are dropping bombs on fascists. Again, a meme reference for groypers.
Good question. I’ll show you something then you decide or you want to dive into it further. It mostly far-right meme shit and doesn’t make a lot of sense for outsiders.
80 years as one of the most recognizable anti fascist anthems vs some random Spotify playlist. Surely he referenced it because it carries the same weight as ASTRO - Slowed Opium Remix.
Deeply online groypers live under 16 layers of irony at all times.
Fascists love pretending that they’re actually heroes fighting the real fascists who want to give people free bread. To a lot of Americans, communist and fascist are the same word.
I can’t tell you if bella ciao is a popular alt-right meme because I don’t hang out with them, but I can tell you it’s far from impossible.
There is a post on front page of Reddit that said shooters granny said he was maga on her Facebook page but I did not see any proof of it one way or other.
To be fair, my own granny died thinking I was still a card carrying Republican. Sometimes you don’t tell Grandma you are a godless liberal. The old folks don’t really need to know everything. Christmas gets kinda awkward if you do.
Most articles actually said the complete opposite of what this shitter post claims.
Cox said: “The family member referenced a recent incident in which Robinson came to dinner prior to September 10, and in the conversation with another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU.”
There was a mention of how “Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate”.
Most articles also say that one of the bullet casings had a “bella ciao” engraving which could be false flag but also could be real.
Not really, the “hey fascist, catch” one is from helldiver’s 2, where the satirical fascist human soldiers ironically call the bug aliens they fight fascists. The arrows are the code to call in an airstrike.
This dude was putting his groyper memes on his bullets
FWIW, there’s plenty of alt-right “advice” out there to use left wing messaging if someone decides to do something stupid. It’s potentially a tactic to misdirect and frame the violence.
are we seriously removing these types of comments and banning people for them here? most of us left reddit to escape this type of over bearing moderation and censorship. Not a good look at all.
PEOPLE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DISAGREE WITH EACH OTHER. (-- edit: i’m disgusted that people actually disagree with this sentiment. if you don’t think you should be able to disagree with people here you should report this comment and moderation should fucking ban me because i dont want to be here.)
is there a real source for this or just some twitter guy?
Some Twitter guy has multiple awards for journalism, I’m inclined to give him some benefit. But I would like someone to provide an official statement.
Citations or GTFO because we should always check for sources especially in this day and age, awards or not.
You’re not wrong. Just highlighting he at least has some credibility beyond the average xitter poster.
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No I don’t think he’s the us president…
It’s just speculation. No real motive has been determined. https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-09-12/what-we-know-about-the-suspected-killer-of-charlie-kirk
LA Times wrote this less than 15 minutes ago:
The only things in writing are the words etched into the bullets, and those are mixed. He wrote an anti-fascist statement on a bullet casing and other text on others, but nothing to indicate he had liberal or conservative ideologies. If anything, he appeared to be mostly mad at the whole system.
Honestly with this administration, I have a difficult time believing any evidence they provide. The head of the FBI is a fucking podcaster who was able to lie profusely to the point that he caught Trump’s attention. That must take a lot of lying.
No, he wrote Helldiver’s 2 and groyper memes.
Is for this: https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Eagle_500kg_Bomb
They say the truth can’t get it’s pants on before a lie made it around the world, but I love Lemmy cause mfers come with sources within minutes or hours
When I first heard about the three arrows, I thought it was a reference to the iron front. This is so much lamer.
How do you get more explicitly anti-fascist than ‘Hey fascist catch (a bomb)’ and bella ciao?
In the game where that code is from, you play as a human soldier fighting for a starship troopers-esque over the top obviously fascist but played for laughs Super Earth Government, and they routinely call the bug aliens fascist while calling in bombing runs on them.
“Notices bulges OwO what’s this?” is used within the groypers to make fun of furries, as well as when they are (ugh I hate that I’m about to say this word) “transvestigating”, which is when they “investigate” whether someone is trans or not. Also see “If you read this, you are gay LMAO”
Bella ciao is also used ironically within the groypers.
If it was the only thing there… Sure. Its not though, its one of several things, which all have one very specific context - groypers.
Context is always important.
Edit: Forgot to add - with Helldivers 2, the joke is you’ve got fascists dropping bombs while saying they are dropping bombs on fascists. Again, a meme reference for groypers.
Good question. I’ll show you something then you decide or you want to dive into it further. It mostly far-right meme shit and doesn’t make a lot of sense for outsiders.
80 years as one of the most recognizable anti fascist anthems vs some random Spotify playlist. Surely he referenced it because it carries the same weight as ASTRO - Slowed Opium Remix.
I’d like to raise a few points:
I can’t tell you if bella ciao is a popular alt-right meme because I don’t hang out with them, but I can tell you it’s far from impossible.
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There is a post on front page of Reddit that said shooters granny said he was maga on her Facebook page but I did not see any proof of it one way or other.
Edit post is here now too
https://vger.to/lemmy.zip/post/48535484
To be fair, my own granny died thinking I was still a card carrying Republican. Sometimes you don’t tell Grandma you are a godless liberal. The old folks don’t really need to know everything. Christmas gets kinda awkward if you do.
I am almost 70 grannies and such are long gone. I get to be a godless liberal with no side eye.
Most articles actually said the complete opposite of what this shitter post claims.
Most articles also say that one of the bullet casings had a “bella ciao” engraving which could be false flag but also could be real.
Bella ciao is in a number of these far right guys’ playlists.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Shuster
Not to mention the stuff on the casings was specifically antifascist.
Not really, the “hey fascist, catch” one is from helldiver’s 2, where the satirical fascist human soldiers ironically call the bug aliens they fight fascists. The arrows are the code to call in an airstrike.
This dude was putting his groyper memes on his bullets
Helldivers 2 is popular, but I’m more focused on the Bella Ciao lyrics. Seems pretty obscure for a surface level imitation of antifascists.
Apparently there’s a remix version all over the groyper playlists they share.
FWIW, there’s plenty of alt-right “advice” out there to use left wing messaging if someone decides to do something stupid. It’s potentially a tactic to misdirect and frame the violence.
casings can very easily be planted. that shouldn’t be convincing taken on its own.
That’s what I’m waiting to see. We have to be patient.
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Turns out people with morals, on average, don’t like killing. Um, sorry you’re mad about it?
This isn’t the type of “action” the left-leaning population tends to take. Violence begets violence.
That is extremely unfortunate for the left.
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are we seriously removing these types of comments and banning people for them here? most of us left reddit to escape this type of over bearing moderation and censorship. Not a good look at all.
PEOPLE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DISAGREE WITH EACH OTHER. (-- edit: i’m disgusted that people actually disagree with this sentiment. if you don’t think you should be able to disagree with people here you should report this comment and moderation should fucking ban me because i dont want to be here.)
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They said “hey hey, ho ho” right before “Donald Trump has got to go” so I don’t know how you can say that didn’t do anything…
Some of them even had SNARKY SIGNS.