• Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    It means the messages aren’t specific to any one movement. It seems like wasted effort if they were going to slot him in to any category, since they’re open to interpretation as either ultra right wing memes or antifacist memelord quotes. Depending on the news source, they are being interpreted differently.

    Or, maybe “they” made it intentionally occlusive to avoid a civil war. Because let’s face it, the right were calling for a violence before the casings even came out. Hell, they were calling for violence before the shooting, too.

    • ileftreddit@piefed.social
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      6 hours ago

      My take is that since the public just wholesale bought the story about the UHC CEOs murderer engraving 9mm bullets, someone at WSJ (owned by Rupert/Lachlan Murdock, known Nazis and accelerationists) decided “hey let’s tell everyone these bullets had engravings too” and intentionally left the “messages” on the bullets vague enough to go either way. Once it was out there, people ran with it cause it sounded plausible.

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        6 hours ago

        Oh, I agree. I’m not sold on them even existing, either. But I’m debating available reported evidence.

        My new personal, not totally serious, conspiracy theory is: They are real, Tyler is an edgy memelord with no affiliation, and someone at one of these organizations shoehorned the Groyper connection because they own Groyper Coin.

        Is it plausible? Maybe. But we’re in a platos’ cave of media lies just trying to figure out what the shapes mean.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          We have specific messages though, they were reported yesterday IIRC, after they arrested their primary suspect. It would be pretty incredible for them to completely fabricate the messages as well as have Utah’s governor believe them.

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          5 hours ago

          “A Plato’s cave of media lies” LOL too fucking true, they’ve figured out how to propagate lies everywhere simultaneously