“Whether you choose violence or not, violence is coming to you. You either fight back or you die," Elon Musk told the large crowds at Saturday’s “Unite the Kingdom” rally.
More than 100,000 people descended on Britain’s capital on Saturday for one of the country’s largest far-right rallies in decades.
The “Unite the Kingdom” rally was organized by Tommy Robinson, a convicted fraudster with a violent criminal record, and attended by billionaire Elon Musk via video link. Amid a sea of flag-waving and soccer-style chanting from large crowds that exceeded expectations, violent clashes with police led to dozens of arrests.
It came amid a surge of nationalism in the U.K., with a far-right party topping the polls, and the murder of American conservative activist Charlie Kirk — an assassination Robinson used to mobilize support in the run-up to the event.
Everything being state owned isn’t leftist, at all. That’s straight up authoritarian. Putin has almost everything owned by the state too - are you seriously going to call him a leftists??? Sprinkling in some civil rights so the state machine runs better does not a leftist state make. And actual libertarianism is solidly center neutral. Right wing libertarianism is an oxymoron.
But, there’s no point in discussing the situation further with someone who still has past traumas from an authoritarian regime.
State ownership of means of production is the very definition of state socialism, thus removing power from the capitalists, which is strictly an implementation of the leftist ideology. I have no trauma, I just don’t live in a lala land. I’m sure you spend a great amount of time thinking about what society could be, instead of accepting what it is and dealing with it. Libertarianism, centrist? Oh please. Its very foundation is rooted in anarchist concepts, distinctively left wing ideology.
I agree there is no point discussing things any further. Just keep dreaming of your utopia, eventually you will grow up.
Except there’s also state capitalism. The bloc may have been started with the intention of state socialism (doubtful, since we’re talking about Stalin here), but it was definitely run as a state capitalist system, as most authoritarian governments do - including modern Russia.
Just because something is rooted in concepts that might be left (or right) wing, doesn’t mean the thing itself is at the same level (much like Stalinism).
Libertarianism itself is strongly center.
It’s offshoots, like Libertarian Socialism, are what’s left or right wing ideology.
Again, you don’t actually know your politics, instead shaping your perception on things based off experience, not what they really are.