cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/37443248

Fight Chat Control.

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Question no. 1425 (General part) from the Danish Parliament’s Legal Affairs Committee:

“Will the minister elaborate on the minister’s statement to TV2 on the 21st?”

August 2024, where the minister says: "We have to break with the totally mistaken notion that it is every man’s freedom to communicate on encrypted messaging services

(…)”?”

Answer:

We know that social media and encrypted services are unfortunately largely is used to facilitate many forms of crime. There are examples on how criminal gangs recruit completely through encrypted platforms young people to commit, among other things, serious crimes against persons. It is an expression of a cynicism that is almost completely incomprehensible.

We therefore need to look at how we can overcome this problem. Both in terms of what the services themselves do, but also what we from the authorities can do. It must not be the case that the criminals can hide behind encrypted services that authorities cannot access access to.

Therefore, we, as a government, will also strengthen the police’s capabilities in the area of ​​decryption, of course under appropriate legal guarantees, as is also the case today. In addition, the Ministry of Justice has The Criminal Justice Committee has just started working on a terms of reference that will look at the challenges that technological developments present to the police investigation, including the use of encrypted messaging services.

I also note that steps have been taken within the EU towards a strengthened regulation of, among other things, digital information services and social media platforms.

For example, the European Commission has proposed a new Regulation on rules for preventing and combating sexual abuse of children. The proposed regulation contains rules on obligations for certain online services to minimize the risk of their services being misused for online child sexual abuse, and the services can, if necessary, be required to track down, report, remove and block access to material showing sexual abuse of children.

  • Nibodhika@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    You do know that cryptography predates computers right? Anything that can send text can be used to send encrypted messages, don’t believe me? Here you go:

    -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
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    =kS8o
    -----END PGP MESSAGE-----
    

    There’s no way you will be able to read the message above unless I give you the key for it. How would they stop me from sending that?

    Also, are they going to firewall my VPS? What about my personal server? What if we use text files on my personal server, using ssh keys to connect to it? There’s no way to block all cryptographed communication without blocking all communication.

    • plyth@feddit.org
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      7 hours ago

      If you can only send facebook messages, facebook can block anything with more than 5 random characters.

      VPS - virtual private server? The server is behind a router. Of course it can be firewalled. It’s also on a host server so all your files can be read without you noticing.

      There’s no way to block all cryptographed communication without blocking all communication.

      Everything can be blocked by default and only AI monitored channels from official services can be accepted. Short messages can be hidden with crypto tricks but that is a very limited freedom for very few people.