• craftymansamcf@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Why are you making up what I said?

    Whee look at the goalposts go

    Failing to call it a genocide in 77 years is not moving a goalpost. Its basic human decency

    I am honestly a little bit surprised to see so many people eager to jump up and provide examples of the type of bad faith argument I was talking about in my original comment.

    Bad faith is what Bernie has done, always blaming Nentanyahu, continuing the flow of any arms, trade and people to the settler state.

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      1 day ago

      Ah yes, who could forget that time he fought to continue the flow of any arms, trade, and people to the settler state. Which bill was that that he supported? What was the exception carved out, how was it carved out? Clearly I’m super clueless on this topic, what year did he introduce the bill? I want to know, maybe you can help me understand. I know there must have been hundreds if not thousands that he introduced, so just focus on one. Tell me.

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          Surprisingly enough, a one-sentence Twitter link has led you astray!

          https://www.commondreams.org/news/sanders-force-vote-israel-weapons-sales

          https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/34/text

          The bill blocks a particular sale by Trump of weapons to Israel. It’s not just offensive weapons, it’s a specific list of weapons (everything in Trump’s attempt) plus some US military support services “and other related elements of logistics and program support.” What’s carved out of it? It looks to me like it’s blocking literally the entire sale.

          I am done with this exchange, it is abundantly clear that you’re happy to continue talking bollocks for as long as I’m willing to respond to you. It’s been educational though! Like I say, I’m a little bit surprised that people popped up to do exactly what I described in the original comment, and also in a particularly ham-handed manner that makes it pretty obvious that they’re just casting around for reasons to shit on Sanders.

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            1 day ago

            Surprisingly enough, a one-sentence Twitter link has led you astray!

            Bernie’s communication director lied? That sounds like a bad thing to do given they could be complicit in genocide.

            The bill blocks a particular sale by Trump of weapons to Israel.

            So only offensive weapons then…

            What’s carved out of it?

            Carved out is the absence of Bernie blocking the iron dome missiles that israel uses to act with impunity… Bernie would never touch them since the existence of the occupation is necessary in his mind.

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                You got the one example you wanted and you want to duck out already?

                You don’t get to make a massive post shaming people for criticising a politician and then get upset when people respond.

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                  19 hours ago

                  Don’t go

                  I’ll give you two upvotes, see if you can find the surprise in the YouTube videos, I am waiting

                  Don’t give up now

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                  Hey wait, don’t go. So there’s a prize hidden in one of those YouTube videos: Bernie Sanders says something about AIPAC. What does he have to say about it? I’ll give you an upvote if you can find it and tell me.

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                    17 hours ago

                    I’m sorry your liberal zionist has been exposed, but when you said you were done with the exchange its weird to come back to it.