Aside from men being horny in the 1800s, and this being a holdover since that time, is there any actual reason why this hasn’t changed?

If society was dominated by women, would this be more likely to change?

I was sweating my ass off hiking in the hot sun, and the question has been bothering me all day after my top soaked through with sweat.

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      So, any woman with a double mastectomy is no longer a woman? Damn, cancer keeps getting harder and harder.

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          Holy shit, that is a fucked up thing to say.

          Like imagine telling a woman with cancer, “luckily, your vagina is the only thing keeping you a woman”. As if their genitalia is what defines them as a woman.

          What a disgusting thing to say. What the fuck is wrong with you?

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              Definitionally, if you say a part of being a woman is having breasts, and a woman doesn’t have breasts, you are saying they are either less of a woman or not a woman at all.

              Either that, or your initial argument is wrong, and having breasts has nothing to do with being a woman, so there is nothing wrong with going topless as a woman.

              I will say it feels like you definitely believe not having breasts makes you less of a woman because you said “technically makes you a woman” here, which is a weird thing to say if you were arguing that women shouldn’t be allowed to go topless for some sex-related reason.

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              Oh, my bad. I’m glad you told her she is only less of a woman because she has no breasts.

              People like you are sick in the head.

              Women aren’t less women because they lose their breasts. They’re not less women for not having a vagina, whatever the fuck that means. Like, if your labia or clitoris are removed, are you less of a woman? If your uterus is removed, are you less of a woman? What a disgusting thing to tell women, that their womanhood is their genitals.

              People like you make breast cancer so much harder than it already is.

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                I literally never said any of that.

                This is a weird conversation and I just realized I’ve been having it with multiple different people. I thought it was just one person. So let me recalibrate.

                And actually bounce, because this is getting less about what’s being said and the ideas behind the opinions and more just emotional garbage… for me at least, sorry. I’m really sorry you’re going through a lot. I really wish you a full recovery for ever ❤️ But for me to go down this road with you over an issue I never intended do discuss,and to be honest never said any of the things… No… Sorry but no.

                I also hope you get the help you need, and I’m guessing you’re American so I wish you all the best going forward. With or without tits and shirts.

                Bye ✌️🕊️

                Edit

                I just realized you’re not the cancer girl. However, everything still stands.

                God luck ✌️🕊️

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                  Part of, you also have your vagina?

                  Part of

                  you also have your vagina?

                  You say disgusting things and try to backtrack when called out on them. You are such a coward to say horrible things and then pretend you didn’t.

                  No woman is defined by her breasts, vagina, or even chromosomes, and losing any part of her is not being less of a woman. Any woman with breast cancer is just as much of a woman before as after. Fuck you.

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      Grow the fuck up and start thinking like an adult and not a horny little boy. Oh uncomfortably hot sweaty woman… She must want me because boobs. Jesus.

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      So a male breast is not part of the gender? Something beging part of what makes you a man or a woman certainly isn’t where we draw the line.