Turning Point USA spokesman Andrew Kolvet on Saturday said Charlie Kirk’s surgeon called it an “absolute miracle” that the bullet that killed him didn’t exit his body because dozens of people were standing behind him when he was shot.
“I want to address some of the discussion about the lack of an exit wound with Charlie. I’m usually not interested in delving into most of this kind of online chatter, and I apologize this is somewhat graphic, but in this case, the fact that there wasn’t an exit wound is probably another miracle, and I want people to know,” Kolvet, the executive producer of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” wrote in a lengthy post on X.
You’re being rude.
I specifically said taking their word on there being no exit wound. I have seen no evidence of that. Only the word of someone.
I do have experience with firearms. I don’t have experience with a .30-06, or shooting people. I’m assuming you probably don’t either.
I don’t think you can know that. It hit an artery, which has high pressure. It will gush no matter what. It doesn’t matter if it’s the entry or exit wound.
That’s why I asked the question about the underpowered round.
Comparing a shot that hits the skull to one that hits the neck is not remotely similar. To use your language, go watch some guntubers who shoot the fake skull ballistic replicas. Even small round create pretty dramatic effects when they crack the skull open.
I don’t disagree that it’s unlikely a .30-06. I was proposing a possible alternative that I don’t have the knowledge to estimate without putting a lot of effort in. I never made an argument it was the case. I proposed an alternative hypothesis specifically saying I don’t know if it’d make sense.
I don’t care.
From my perspective, you are being rude, with your immense ignorance about firearms and wounds generally, and not being appreciative that I am deciding to apparently waste hours of my time doing a lot of research and analysis that you likely are not capable of, in an effort to explain the answers to the questions and concerns you are asking.
Evidently you have much less experience than myself.
No, I have not shot a person.
I have shot an array of pistol and intermediate rifle and high powered rifle cartridges though, out of a similarly diverse array of guns.
I myself do not even presently own a firearm, but, I grew up in a household that owned a good deal of them, and had ‘gun buddies’ who would allow us to use their weapons at various ranges as well.
Usually we would try to do some kind of even swap for fired rounds, or occasionally reimburse someone if one side chewed through a lot more, or a lot more pricey ammo than the other.
I have only myself shot 30.06 a few times, as I have a fairly thin build and frame, and the recoil is extremely unpleasant.
But I have certainly watched other people shoot 30.06, in person, spotted for them or did range callouts or whatever.
See, I said ‘Here’s the idea’ to convey the concept that it is a theory.
If your only criticism of this theory is that I cannot be 100% certain of it, then congratulations, I guess you don’t believe in any empirically based theory of any kind.
Also, it matters a lot, actually, whether or not the neck gushing wound is an entry or exit wound, because that massivelt alters a forensic reconstruction of the trajectory of the fired round, and thus the position of the shooter.
You evidently did not go for Visual Calculus in your Disco Elysium playthrough.
As to the JFK comparison:
Yes, I know its a rough comparison, I’m trying to baby you through this because you have apparently never seen for yourself what kind of exit wound a 30.06 produces on a deer.
Congrats, it doesn’t, you can thank me for explaining why later, or never, your choice.
I didn’t ask you to do that. Be upset with yourself.
I do not care about your experience. You don’t see me listing mine, because it isn’t relevant. You writing all that out added nothing to the discussion. You can be right with no experience and wrong with all the experience in the world. I never pretended to know it all. In fact, I explicitly said I don’t. I asked a question. You can be civil. I believe in you.
You posed it as a statement of fact. You also said you weren’t taking people’s word for it, and then said something like this, which was totally wrong. I’ve watched enough people die in warzones to know wounds can gush from entry and exit wounds. That doesn’t mean anything.
It doesn’t matter to the fact it’s gushing. Of course it matters for where the shooter shot from. In what world do you feel the need to stretch my words to mean that? It’s the most basic statement anyone has ever made. “If the bullet came from this direction, the shooter must have been in the same direction.” Obviously. Why are you trying to hard to make it sound like I said something I didn’t say?
So you use a totally unrelated situation? Yeah, I haven’t seen it on a deer. I’ve seen plenty of rounds hit people. A shot in the neck, which is pure muscle, is significantly different than a shot to the skull, which is basically a balloon with a hard casing. Hopefully that’s babied down enough for you.
Thanks for putting in the effort. Maybe leave out the insults next time. I didn’t make you do it. Also, maybe don’t misportray stuff that isn’t true, and also stop thinking you’re the smartest person in the world. All you did was Google some stuff. I could have done it too, but I didn’t want to spend my time on it. Clearly you didn’t either, so you shouldn’t have if it made you so uncomfortable. I guess you did it to sound smart, but that information is available to anyone so all it proved is you can use a search engine.