• gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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    23 hours ago

    We’re witnessing the reemergence of a multi-polar world. The dollar will take a hit. It’s not the end of dollarization.

    the thing is that if the US really goes through balkanization, that puts an absolute end to the US dollar.

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      22 hours ago

      if the US really goes through balkanization

      The US isn’t composed of geographically well-defined socio-ethnoc groups. There’s no bright line you can draw between Liberals and Conservatives, as evidenced by the number of “swing” states and the absurd lines you have to draw in order to gerrymander populations.

      Lincoln was right. We’re a nation that can be one thing or another. But a divide will not stand. Trying to put Texas and California and New York and Florida into separate counties won’t work any better today than it did in the 18th century.

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        That’s not true, like at all.

        There is a world of cultural difference between NY residents, Texas residents, and Oregon residents.

        In fact, there’s about 5 distinct socio-economic regions in the US.

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          There is a world of cultural difference between NY residents, Texas residents, and Oregon residents.

          There is a world of difference between Houston’s Third Ward, River Oaks, and Spring. Nevermind the difference between Sugar Land, The Woodlands, and Pearland. Or Austin, San Antonio, and San Angelo.

          Where do you draw the line? Even Republican gerrymandering experts struggle with this question.

          In fact, there’s about 5 distinct socio-economic regions in the US.

          Far more than that, if you’re looking closely

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            No, its really about 5, distinct, socioeconomic regions in the US.

            For example, the Great Lakes Region, the Pacific Northwest, Plains Region, etc.

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          21 hours ago

          The West Coast could be its own countr

          Guess which state has the largest population of Republicans. Now guess the state that donates the most to the GOP. Now guess the state whose residents make to the highest percentage of Trump’s cabinet.

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            21 hours ago

            What a weird way to just say California is the most populous state. Guess which state has the most Democrats, leftists, and liberals. Also California!

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              21 hours ago

              Guess which state has the most Democrats, leftists, and liberals.

              Liberals in California are as owned by the corporate sector as their conservative peers.

              Gavin Newsom isn’t coming to save you.

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                I don’t think anyone was looking for a savior. I was just indicating that there are some states that are neatly divisible with aligned views and values: those on the West Coast.

                It likely won’t happen for various reasons anyway, but it’s a pleasant thought.

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                  I was just indicating that there are some states that are neatly divisible with aligned views and values

                  Well you are wrong and naive.

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                    19 hours ago

                    Nah I’m not. They’re building multi state accords on a number of issues.

                    But keep on trucking with the bullshit bud.

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                  there are some states that are neatly divisible

                  Again, the state is full of Republicans, many of whom are heavily influential in liberal politics. That’s why you had Gavin Newsom doing podcasts with Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon to begin with.

                  These aren’t neatly divisible. Republicans and Democrats live next door to one another.

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                    Dude, I live in California. I know there’s Republicans here. You aren’t blowing my mind with this. They’re some of the biggest whiners in the state.

                    If, by some miracle, the coast became its own country they’d likely find the nearest exit.