• nuggie_ss@lemmings.world
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    7 hours ago

    It’s not a fallacy if the opponent straight up states it as a goal

    I don’t have to answer for what other people say or do, we’ve been through this. You should be asking if I think that should be the goal, but instead you try to conflate other arguments with my own so you have something easier to argue against. Stay on topic. Again.

    As life goes on you’ll probably learn to be even more of a condescending prick who attacks other people’s arguments without giving any substance of your own. This makes sense because as bits and pieces start to eke out the more it becomes clear that you probably just a crybaby who is super mad that they had to use pronouns and start calling “steve” “luna”. The horror!

    I’m sure this spiel sounded nice in your head, but all it does is prove that you don’t actually have a leg to stand on.

    If you don’t end up learning from this over time, then that’s on you. I’ve done my part to educate you and it’s up to you what you do with that knowledge.

    You’ve shown me that you’re in “tantrum-mode” right now, so I’m going to ignore you and let you tire yourself out.

    Good luck.

    • ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      You don’t have to answer for them but you can acknowledge that their position is dangerous from a human rights perspective even if it is not personally your position. Crazy how that works

      You’ve done nothing but be dishonest and pose no argument. You instead keep positing on what I should be doing instead of posing any actual position of your own.

      To that end I gave you the benefit of the doubt and reread the thread, exactly this pattern. Nothing of substance from you. Just condescension and no actual content. Except for the removed post where you enter the thread of course.

      Then I visit the mod log to remember what kicked all this off and see you have several transphobic posts: banned from 196 for a meme that implies queer people are groomers, straight up saying that trans women are men, “transgenderism”, etc. so you’re just a real piece of shit, huh? Like at least be genuine and say “I fuckin hate trans people”. Don’t do this coy bullshit like a scared little baby. Own your position you fucking coward. Don’t dance around it and drop little slurs and insults to test the waters. You won’t though because you know you’re a scumbag for it.

      I finally did find the original post and now remember your point - women losing will have discomfort. So fair point. You don’t deserve this, but whatever. The philosophical debate is whose discomfort is more important? Thus bringing up the maga shit. If there are people, who are currently holding a great deal of political power and who also have already enacted anti transgender legislation starting literally on day 1, that poses an existential threat. This tips the scales then. Their discomfort is essentially equal assuming they have all put similar effort into their sport (we can’t do case by case for such a broad decision, obviously) so the moderating factor is the existential threat to their existence.

      You can deny this by calling it a slippery slope fallacy but again: this is documented as a strategy. It is not a transgender persons anxiety saying “what if?!”. It is prominent maga influencers and strategists saying literally that attacking the sports issue is the first step towards attacking more.

      In closing - go fuck yourself.