• saltesc@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    More and more I’m convinced most Americans have no idea what a liberal, leftist, or other terms actually are. They’re just parroting the words they hear from their feeds.

    ‘Liberal’ is the funniest because both red and blue accuse each other of being them. My guess is blues think liberalism is laissez-faire and the reds think it’s woke social freedoms. They’re both slightly on the right track, but not at all.

    And in the rest of the free world…

    Liberals: No one should live in poverty regardless of their ability to perform labour.

    Leftists: Yoooo, 40 hrs is fucked. What is this, the 1300s?

    Liberals: Actually, yeah that is kind of fucked. An employer shouldn’t be ble to encroach on an employee’s life that much. This is an imbalance of liberties.

    Leftist: Great! So what are we going to do bout it?

    Liberals: Fuck all. We can’t be sure employees don’t want this too. Besides, someone will sort it out soon, they always do.

    Leftists: I’ll donate a union $5 so I can tell my friend I’m left.

    And in the next five years, some prolific young gun politician swoops in the 35 hour work week. But due to cultural reasons, everyone keeps working 40 hours and gets plenty of overtime for it. This having the employer pay more and the employee see little benefit because the state haven’t adjusted their now dated tax brackets. But along with very good minimum wage standards and an unemployment rate < 5%, both the leftist and the liberal never found the true source of the poverty and so continued using foreign corporations and large franchise to fulfill almost all of their needs. And everyone but their local infrastructures and communities lived happily ever after until the next global recession hit. The leftist and liberal “really meant it this time” when they said they’d support local and try to live more independently, but the inconvenience of it meant they silently did not.

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      9 months ago

      Liberals: Fuck all. We can’t be sure employees don’t want this too. Besides, someone will sort it out soon, they always do.

      Leftists: I’ll donate a union $5 so I can tell my friends I’m left.

      The most real understanding of our political world tbh.

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        9 months ago

        My experience has more been along the lines of. 5 people are voting:
        1 votes to make things better
        2 don’t vote
        2 vote to make things worse even for themselves

        I tried watching some right wing stuff and some interviews with right wing voters to see if there was a perspective I’m missing but often it was literally ‘I know there’s no evidence for this but I believe it anyway’.

    • Leon@pawb.social
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      9 months ago

      “Rest of the world.”

      Let me introduce you to the Swedish political party, The Liberals. Their ideologies are things like

      • Muslims bad
      • Immigrants bad
      • We should collaborate with the Nazi party
      • We should monitor citizens private communication
      • Criminals should receive harsher punishments

      They’re socially very conservative, and historically have been economically liberal. There are weird outliers however, like the other year when they almost tore themselves apart debating the legal nuances around incest.