• John Richard@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    LOL… this is a new argument I’ve been noticing more & more. It goes something like this… “Hamas made Israel commit a genocide.” If I was paying $7,000 per comment on social media, I’d be asking for a refund for such low effort Israeli propaganda.

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      1 month ago

      “Jews started this when they blah blah blah…”

      • Nazis justifying the Holocaust
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        1 month ago

        I never read about Jews attacking and killing thousands of Germans, capturing and holding a portion of German territory, and kidnapping hundreds of civilians.

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          I never read that Israel represents all Jews, nor how opposing genocide is antisemitic. I’d strongly argue that a country committing genocide while claiming to represent all Jews are actually engaging in antisemitism, especially since those they are genociding are semitic people.

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            People like this want you conflate “the country of Israel” with “all ethnic/religious Jewish people everywhere”

            It allows them to more easily call people antisemitic when you criticize the Israeli government.

            Even IF Israeli intelligence hadn’t ignored reports of potential attacks, and even IF they hadn’t intentionally lowered security in order to make potential attacks worse, all in order to give them and excuse to do the thing they already wanted to do, committing genocide in response is a FULL FUCKING STOP “no”

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          I like how you casually claim Hamas held Israeli territory IN THE FRONTIER OF OCCUPIED PALESTINIAN LAND.

          FFS. The Gaza Prison Breakout is analogous to the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, a response to 75 years of ethnic cleansing and shooting children in the knees for sport, 16 years of illegal military land sea and air siege where Israel calculated the caloric input to keep Palestinians in Gaza on a “starvation plus” diet.

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          They was attempt that would seriously hurt civilians. If they succeded it wouldn’t justify the holocust ike the jewish resistance group Nakam who attempted to poison water supplies

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        what point do you think this proves? you think this genocide being part of a larger war initiated by the side committing the genocide makes it okay? because that’s how this reads. i do not endorse hamas or any of their actions, but that does not justify killing hundreds of civilians every day for 2 years. nothing does. and israel being a settler colonial project also does not in any way make this fine, that’s completely absurd

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        You’re leaving out the most pertinent details, their bruh:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

        If you’re going to steal land & displace a million people, don’t be surprised when they revolt. The whole world sees Israel as the colonizing imperialists they’ve always been, and the colonizing monarchy that claimed back then Zionists could steal the land have ragrets.

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          I wish all I needed to tell me what to trust is a simple graph. According to that, I should be relying a lot more on CNN & NYT. If a majority of Americans don’t know at this point that MSM media outlets & politicians on both sides are highly influenced by the Israeli lobby, then they might as well start sending their taxpayer dollars to Israel themself.