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Omarchy seems to be nothing more than a poorly hacked together custom Arch distro, with things that what some more “gatekeepy” devs think what “pro development” must look like: TUI apps like NeoVim, that have a very steep learning curve.
DHH is right-wing diarrhea
Using it is an entirely different thing from recommending, promoting or especially funding it.
Using is promoting IMO, but to each their own.
That’s not an opinion. That’s factually incorrect.
Using something provides social proof, builds brand loyalty, and by sharing that you use it, generates publicity, however small.
So I’m going to go ahead and disagree with your assessment in its entirety, and judging by the tone of your response, I’ll move on from interacting with you further.
Enjoy your day.
Using something provides social proof
No.
builds brand loyalty
What brand are you referring to? Do you know what this is? It’s not a product, it’s free software.
and by sharing that you use it
That would be promotion if you did that, but it’s not part of using it.
I’ll move on from interacting with you further.
That’s probably smart.
What brand are you referring to? Do you know what this is? It’s not a product, it’s free software.
https://supply.37signals.com/collections/omarchy
Yeah dude, clearly not a brand here. Just… Branded merch. Clearly this is not a brand.
That would be promotion if you did that, but it’s not part of using it.
You just did this very thing, demonstrating my point.
That’s probably smart.
Yeah, it would have been. But I felt the need to address your completely incorrect statements.
Clearly this is not a brand.
So you think using a piece of software promotes brand loyalty to…a line of clothing? I’m just not seeing the logic there. Buying the clothing is promoting and funding it. Using the software is not
You just did this very thing, demonstrating my point.
I did no such thing. You need to read more carefully. I didn’t tell anyone I use it. Because I don’t use it.
Yeah, it would have been.
And yet here you are again making a fool of yourself. Listen to your heart, brother.
Just take the L and go away.
- Both Hyprland (which we’ll just say has an unpleasant history of allowed comments) and Omarchy (DHH… Mostly self explanatory, but go ahead and read his blog and you’ll see exactly the person DHH is. Dogwhistles and all.) were brought up as benefitting from Framework.
- Nirav Patel (nrp) (Founder, CEO) replied by saying “its a big tent and everyone is welcome”, which pissed off a lot of people.
- Rather than respond in the community forums, nrp went to twitter to say he isn’t bigoted.
- Clarification of support was given, that no money went to DHH (kind of a lie here, I’ll get to that), and only a bit to Hyprland. Avoided all discussion of the outsized amount of posts by framework about Omarchy.
- Blog post was made by framework/nrp detailing how money was spent. Left out any mention of hardware being sent out, later edited.
- blog post shows that Railsworld (DHH was the keynote speaker) received massive amounts of money by comparison to every other event. That includes hardware, Linux firmware, the major DEs, etc - combined. A truly astounding amount compared to every other sponsorship. To date I do not believe this has been addressed.
I don’t know about further updates, at this point I’ve written off framework. If you want open, go MNTRe IMO.
Why does it seem recently every Indian descent CEO/English speaking politician is extremely far right? That pattern plus Framework’s actions already makes it seem like they’re also far right.
Though releasing a desktop was the first warning sign in their case I suppose.
Because CEOs in general lean pretty right?
Crazy racist my guy. I also have no idea what makes you think that releasing a desktop computer makes someone far right.
I should clarify - framework releasing a desktop was a sign of enshittification of the company in general, not being far right. Desktops are already highly customizable.
As for the other thing, it’s just a strange pattern that seems to have been emerging. The CEO of Google, CEO of Microsoft, and now Framework.
As for politicians, there’s the UK and India itself as examples.
It’s just a weird coincidence that so many major tech CEOs are Indians. It’s business as usual that tech CEOs are far right, regardless of race.
Enshittification I can see, that’s reasonable. Though I personally support them trying to make a buck off of AI by having it as a platform readily available for self hosting.
And as for indian-decendant leaders, I think what you are observing is simply the fact that there are 1.5 billion people that are indian nationals, or in other words like 18% of human population. With them having a better connection to the west than many other highly populated asian countries, it stands to reason that some evil CEOs will be indian. But as far as I’m concerned the vast majority of evil CEOs in the west are still Caucasian. I think you are wearing some racially fixating glasses you would benefit from taking off. I see this a lot in the USA. I’d be far more interested if any evil CEO inside the USA has had a nationality other than american within their lifetime.
What I mean by my current is that it seems to be a recent phenomenon of seeing both a rise in the far right but also that out of all minorities in power, it’s people of indian descent that usually have those top positions in English speaking western countries and are or support the far right.
However, considering India itself is culturally far right, my guess is that’s the reason as to why. But I suppose by sheer numbers, as you pointed out, would be the reason they predominantly occupy that role, along with the predominant cultural values of India as an average whole.
Still, you’d think you see more of other minorities too, like Chinese, considering that population is globally high too. So it makes me wonder why India specifically? There must be more dynamics at play than just sheer numbers.
Well, as I said India is politically a lot closer to the west historically speaking. If you go to the USA from China you can be imprisoned. Besides, China is already a hub for innovation, so you don’t have to leave it to be a successful capitalist and there is most definitely no lack of asian billionaires. It’s the same story with Japan.
And I did understand what you meant the second time around.
Making the point that India is far-right is fair, though I am unable to verify that right now. Regardless, these are people that grew up in america we are talking about here. Most of them got their political education from american politics. They’re not migrants.
I wouldn’t be surprised that it’s just those specific indian people having the required skills. Because we do have to recognize that Nirav Patel is incredibly educated. While I think DEI being defunded is a move to fight against inclusion, there is just no way around people of color also being intelligent people and thus good for business.
All in all, you’re wearing glasses. Indian demographics are not to blame for USAs issues. It’s american capitalism in this case. Capitalism tends to want to be ever growing and when there is no more growth possible within humanly norms, then they just continue outside of that. Ironically, that’s always been their downfall. You’d think they’d learn from history. I guess a system can’t learn.
If you want open, go MNTRe IMO.
Oh, and a GmbH instead of US.
That is now going to be a higher priority for me.And active on the fediverse too:
I took a look at Omarchy after a user posted a pretty knowledgeable teardown of it. Stay very far away.
Care to elaborate?
Probably this: https://マリウス.com/a-word-on-omarchy/#summary
Excellent read. Thanks for the link.
seemingly no one at Framework (Computer Inc.) or Cloudflare appears to have properly vetted the project they’re directing attention (and sometimes financial support) to.
Sadly, being good at politics makes one more “successful”, faster, as compared to being good at actual work.
Not sure how good he is at politics though, but that seems to be the case here.
I haven’t read Hansson’s blogs, but Brodie’s video on Omarchy was good enough to show me that I didn’t want it at all.
