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cross-posted from: https://ttrpg.network/post/28484448
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At this point for people who lost their jobs it would be much better for all of us to make new companies together that are not on stock market also unionized, cooperative, or unionized cooperative.
Coming back to the same companies who will just fire us for more profit is not a sustainable cycle for anybody. Yes apply for jobs if you really need it but let’s want better for ourselves.
We can release Open source/documentation/procedures/business documentation/management documentation etc to collectively make it easier to create different new tech companies for specific things.
We can spin up an opensourcebusiness community here on Lemmy to do it together (Have no idea how to make/manage Lemmy communities and have projects already if any people would like to pick up this initiative. I can assist however I can in spare time)
I’m kinda split on this. On the one hand, I like the idea, but on the other, I don’t feel like my skills are up to snuff for this kind of project
No worries, maybe you can do a role of promotion getting it in the eyes of people with the skills to get it done. Many ways to go about it. Another person on my comment thread is willing to do it. Couple others too
We would need capital and we would be competing with people that practically own politicians.
Free market capitalism!
Tbf, unless there’s some massive capital expense that I’m not thinking about, you don’t really need any capital for doing software related work besides a computer, which most people already have anyway and maybe some office space. Software is about as capital lite as an industry can be, so if making a workers co-op under capitalism is going to work in any industry, it would be software.
it would be much better for all of us to make new companies together
Companies need clients. That’s sort of the secret sauce in business. If you don’t have good relationships with the management at your client firms, you can’t win the contracts that give your work recognizable monetary value.
We can spin up an opensourcebusiness community here on Lemmy to do it together (Have no idea how to make/manage Lemmy communities and have projects already if any people would like to pick up this initiative. I can assist however I can in spare time)
:-/
Have you talked to a lot of tech workers? I feel like there’s a set of left wing ones, a larger set of libertarian types, and an even larger set of people who are shockingly ignorant of politics and history.
Atmospheric and Oceanic science has been heavily defunded this year. A quarter of my program at NOAA has been laid off this year.
If I lost my science job, I was planning on going into tech. Now where do I go??? It feels like the walls are closing in.
I should have gone to a trade school instead :/ STEM was a bad choice.
I feel this in my soul. I should’ve just went to law school.
I am probably older than you and just wrote the lsat to bail on tech. You can too!
Thanks for the encouragement homie.
unironically, just leave the US. plenty of countries/international research orgs are pouching all sorts of US-intelligencia right now.
This is not entirely true and blown away out of proportion by the writers of all the articles you’re seeing. For example that big one that got a bunch of attention in France was only for 15 applicants. Also outside of a few exceptions, most STEM workers lack the resources to pick up and leave where they are at.
just
You say this like it is easy/simple
Tech is a field where there’s always infinite work to do, and it’s always only limited by the budget.
We had very low interest rates for over a decade, which made investments more profitable and thus there was always a ton of money to go around. The current financial downturn is the main reason of all the tech layoffs with no budget there are no jobs.
The upside of that: Even with all the talk of AI and stuff, once the interest rate goes down and investments go up, all the jobs will be back.
IDK. Tech companies are bringing in more revenue than ever. The trend seems to be companies reporting great revenue growth, then laying off shortly after, to which the investors seem to reward. In the past, layoffs would usually bring stock prices down, since they have less human capital to generate profit from.
This isn’t entirely true either. Layoffs can actually increase stock prices by lessening liabilities. This is a legit tactic in shareholder primacy theory.
Tech companies don’t innovate anymore. Their Wall Street string-pullers demand reliable profit growth so they kill innovation through buyouts and are left with stale products they can only make worse and/or charge more for. Layoffs are a direct wealth transfer from working class labor to wealthy shareholders and the street rewards execs for it every time.
And if you’re thinking AI is innovative, it’s got executives in a fever pitch for the same reasons - so companies can fire expensive labor and big tech can become even more monopolistic, shove more ads, push more propaganda, and control the internet. It’s fortunate it doesn’t work that well so far. Bubble can’t pop soon enough.
Let’s make our own Internet with blackjack and hookers.
My entire web team got laid off from a major car company. Right before we got paid our yearly bonus and right before I went on my paternity leave.
I work for a European company, and we had a major US car company as a client. 6 month ago they abruptly stopped working with us and fired a bunch of their engineers, and now they hired again and are trying to negotiate a new deal with us.
Your story might be an answer to whyCorporate life.
