I was surprised by how weak and digressive it was.
When they announced their intention to bury it I assumed that meant it was accurate and on point, and they wanted to bury it for exactly that reason.
But instead it almost feels like a whitewash - like the sort of thing the DNC would’ve ordered specifically to divert from the real problems of support for genocide and subservience to moneyed interests.
Makes me wonder if this is some sort of elaborate fraud - if they didn’t just throw this together as a substitute to release in place of the real autopsy.
Paul Rivera spoke for an hour to big donors about the autopsy, prior to the announcement that they would not be releasing it publicly. This report was crafted to assure that business as usual politics would continue. Democrats don’t care if they lose as long as donations keep coming.
That’s it.
That’s the takeaway.
To an extent. They and Republicans are committed to learning the wrong lesson. All these people refusing to vote Etc or voting third party. You will never get their attention or get them to learn from your actions. They will always look at the one of the two that won. And imitate them. It’s what’s happened for over 50 years. And the same people are still in charge.
They aren’t learning the wrong lessons because it’s not the public that they serve, it’s private interests. They know exactly what they are doing.
What seems obvious is that Paul Rivera, who wrote this report by himself and provided absolutely no source material, was in way over his head and may have even made shit up.
What boggles my mind, though, is that rather than come out and say the report was poor quality and clearly omitted many important issues and thus has limited to no utility, DNC Chair Ken Martin went to the media and tried to sell it like there were important conclusions drawn and that the DNC was enacting them.
Ken Martin of course hand picked Paul Rivera to do this. I don’t know if he was trying to protect his own ego or what, but he very blatantly lied to the public about this report and has lost all credibility. I think it’s likely he loses his job soon.
At this point, I’m tending toward the interpretation that Martin and the rest of the DNC upper echelon wanted and expected a report that would, among other things, pretend to address the rather obvious failures of bowing to the self-serving desires of big money donors and at least tacitly supporting the Palestinian genocide, but would then do some sort of fallacious end run that led to the comforting conclusion that that wasn’t really a problem, so it would be okay when the DNC, as they fully intend, keep right on doing both of those things.
And what they got failed to do that.
What boggles my mind, though, is that rather than come out and say the report was poor quality and clearly omitted many important issues and thus has limited to no utility, DNC Chair Ken Martin went to the media and tried to sell it like there were important conclusions drawn and that the DNC was enacting them.
Why are you lying?
Back in factual reality, here are some of the things Ken Martin actually said about the report:
When I commissioned a comprehensive review of the 2024 election, I started a process to answer those questions while interrogating where our party has systemically and historically fallen short. I didn’t want that process led by anybody directly tied to the 2024 cycle – either the campaign or the consultants involved – and I did not want to put my own thumb on the scale for what might be produced. What I did ask for were actionable takeaways for the future. I wanted real, in-depth, specific recommendations to improve our allocation of resources, tech, data, organizing, media strategy, and more. I chose someone who I thought could produce this type of report.
When I received the report late last year, it wasn’t ready for primetime. Not even close. And because no source material was provided, fixing it would have meant starting over, from the beginning – every conversation, every interview, every data set.
I am not proud of this product; it does not meet my standards, and it won’t meet your standards. I don’t endorse what’s in this report, or what’s left out of it. I could not in good faith put the DNC’s stamp of approval on it.
Dude, fuck you for accusing me of lying. You might notice the statement you’re quoting from was released today, whereas I’m talking about everything Ken Martin said before today. Go back and watch the PSA (Pod Save America) interview I mentioned (in another comment), which was recorded a month ago.
You didn’t mention a “PSA interview” (whatever the fuck that is). You only mentioned that he “went to the media.” How the Hell was I supposed to know you were talking about something other than the thread article?
You’re right that I mentioned the Pod Save America interview in a different comment on this thread. But that’s just one interview, this story has been ongoing for over two months, with Ken Martin spouting the same lies over and over on many outlets. Jumping straight to “you’re lying” when you’re the one that lacks any context is awful. Next time try something like “But that’s the reason he gave in the article” to try to invite more information
We really need ranked choice voting
Ranked choice voting allows for multiple choices and parties and candidates
Why? Where do you use that anywhere else in your life
How often do you vote?
Almost daily.
There’s no way the DNC could stop sniffing its own farts long enough to provide any kind of meaningful analysis of its own actions
The autopsy concluded that so-called “identity politics” don’t resonate with white male voters. The report noted the success of Trump’s attack ads, particularly the anti-trans spots with the kicker, “Kamala is for they/them, President Trump is for you.”
“If the vice president would not change her position—and she did not—then there was nothing which would have worked as a response,” the report asserts.
Fuck these ghouls
Dems: we released this report in order to make sure that you could trust us.
Also Dems: we investigated ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong. It’s your fault for not voting for us.
But continue to believe the blue lies and don’t dare step out of line. Because I’ve just been told since my vote doesn’t count because of where I live I shouldn’t be in any political discussions.
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Guess it didn’t come up :\
What?
Did you literally just download the PDF and search for those three things, see 0, and then close it?
Because even just skimming thru any of the 193 pages would show you none of it’s is about specific policy positions, largely because with 4 years to the next presidential election, that would be entirely useless…
Like, we do not want the DNC picking policy, that’s what the candidate we vote for in primaries do.
A large organization like the DNC dictating policy for politicians to follow and using their influence as a party to get those people elected is what got us here in the fuckign first place
The paper is going to seem boring and it’s not going to have what you think, be cause it wasn’t written for us, and it wasn’t written up to be a list of reasons why Kamala lost, be ause everyone reading it would be very aware of why that happened.
The point of the paper was what a nonbiased organization could do to fix shit.
So (again, fucking obviously) it’s not going to list policy positions to push.
Your take that a political party should not address policy is laughable. You are not a serious person.
Who the fuck cares anymore.
America already surrendered to tyrants.
Surrendered?? Wtf are you taking about? Things are dire out there, but there is a resistance. Get off your damn couch & join it, out build it if you have to
I would like to believe you are correct, but all I’ve seen is some sternly worded letters and people hanging out in the park with signs. Neither of these is much of a resistance. No answer to Project 2025. Nothing but a death by inches defensive approach politically. The Democrats selling out voters at every turn and calling it decorum or similar. It certainly looks like we’re cooked.
Yeah most politicians are fucked, we knew the DNC was worthless the second Biden announced he was running for reelection. It’s the people’s resistance you have to look for, which I think you can count the election of Mamdani as part of that resistance. The DNC tried to run accused sex predator Cuomo against him & the voters said hell no & elected Mamdani. & Mamdani has done anything but sit on his hands like members of the Democratic Party are doing.
No matter how much Trump scares you about the Antifa militia, it doesn’t make it exist.
I seriously doubt this was prepared during the time they claim it was. It seems like a bunch of nothing words with a strict no mention of anything the left has been talking about being the issue. It’s like what you’d get if you asked a chat bot to prepare an almost 200 page document about why it wasn’t any of these things while being careful not to mention any of those things.
Former leadership appointed a single guy to write this report with no real academic resources, so it really just reads as that guy’s opinion.
I would buy that it’s just an out of touch loser’s opinion, but what kinda screws that up for me is that they didn’t even discuss Biden’s age or* cognitive issues being a significant factor. Anyone alive and* paying attention during the time, even someone who only watched morning Joe, would have mentioned that.
Edit: phone typos
It’s not a fair argument because Trump is also old as fucking dinosaur shit and has even worse lifestyle and habits.
They’re competing with the couch, not just Republicans. Couch sitters basically always have higher standards of Democrats than they do of Republicans. In fact, the entire electorate and media infrastructure have higher standards for Democrats. It’s fine to disagree, but I feel like that’s just being purposely obtuse for why it’s not in the report. Ken Martin and Ken Martin’s “friend” fucked this up royally and even liberals are pointing that out. Why the cope?
Also couldn’t let this slip by either: Ken Martin commissioned the report, NOT his predecessors.
