• Renacles@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    That sounds a bit strange, the source code for nearly every script that handles quests, mechanics and such is bundled with the game and what modders have been using since release.

    Unless I’m misunderstanding something, I don’t see why a remaster like Oblivion’s would be impossible. It runs on top of the original game anyways.

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      2 months ago

      Cause the real reason which is well known is Bethesda higher up dont like the fact it s the most loved fallout post Bethesda acquisition and wasn’t made by them

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        2 months ago

        That’s literally not true. It’s false information spread by fanboy dickriders like you

        I don’t mean to sound like an asshole, but this whole “NV was the best game ever made” is getting REALLY old, especially now 16 years after the game released.

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          I mean, for all of its flaws it is objectively better than Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 though. And I loved Fallout 3. So the comment you’re responding to is correct, because 3 and 4 are the competition (76 and Fallout Shelter do not count).

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            So they’re right that they said Bethesda hates NV, because Fallout 3 and 4 are “worse” (completely subjective btw, even though I do enjoy NV)? Not because someone at Bethesda actually confirmed that (which they never have)?

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              2 months ago

              None from Bethesda but old obsidian dev did. Mb it was Chris not sure. But wouldn’t be surprise since nobody listen him even when he said fallout isn’t about capitalism and he s just a voice screaming far away cause nobody seem to be aware of it

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                Bethesda does not hate New Vegas, Obsidian, or anyone who worked on the game. Find proof then I’ll change my tune.

                They wouldn’t be featuring it so heavily in all Fallout media if they didn’t like it; especially the show, which season 2 is basically New Vegas 2.

                I don’t know why so many people (like you) just accept the falsity that “Bethesda hates New Vegas and Obsidian” when literally no one from either company has ever said so.

                The only people who say that shit are like you, who can’t seem to fully grasp reality, or are trying to push some kind of agenda.

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                  The show is litteraly a rewriting of what was a grounded belivable world into a goofy borderlands clone. Even with Bethesda approval I won’t say it s an argument.

                  Also the story about how Bethesda imposed hard deadline and didn’t deliver their bonus to obsidian for just one point on metacritic is well known.

                  Also

                  According to him, “They had a whole PowerPoint. Not even about the DLC, they had a whole PowerPoint about all the things Obsidian did wrong.” He sarcastically described the meeting as “hugely morale-boosting,” noting that the developers felt they had provided a quality game. “I thought we did a good product for you guys that kept Fallout in the public consciousness,” Avellone stated, adding that it felt unfair since Bethesda “reaped a lot of the rewards for it” while being visibly unhappy during the review. The technical friction went even deeper, leading to a confrontation over performance and the future of the game’s code. Avellone recalled an interview in which he was asked whether the game would hit 30 frames per second, which he believed was a basic standard. However, a tech director at Bethesda later scolded him for making that promise. “I sat there, and I smiled, and I took it,” he said, while internally wondering, “Why do you have a f—ing engine that can’t run 30 frames per second, and then call that your claim to fame?”

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          2 months ago

          i mean the best game ever made ? i never said that i said the best fallout with bethesda being on the cover ever made. went on steam fallout 3, and 4 stand at 80% and nv at 90% pretty sure on all site that have gamers reviews it will be the same storry. The overall population said that nv is better than 3 and 4

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            Metacritic says 3 and 4 were both better reviewed than NV. Took me like ten seconds to look it up.

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              3 and 4 also sold way more than new vegas

              in fact, new vegas being a masterpiece wasnt even discussed until like 2017. before that, opinions were varied

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              u mean a paid journalist? that s why i said gamers. Journalists also feel concord was a good game as for highgard and every new pokemon or cod so yeah kinda dont care about their opinion

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                2 months ago

                I actually talked to all of the players, and they all agreed with the reviewers. They said NV is actually a little overrated. 🤷

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        Well they need to make better Fallout games, then. Start with firing Emil Pagliarulo. That man should never be allowed into the writer’s room ever again.

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          what make better game ? are you crasy ? We saw how they treated the reception of starfield like fan being in the wrong and not an issue on their end so no hope on that subject

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    I find the idea that all old games need remasters/remakes very disrespectful tbh. Artists worked hard on those games back in the day. I can justify improvements to performance but updating visuals such as lighting and textures to be prettier or more realistic often misunderstands what the original game was going for.

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      While I understand your reasoning (although I don’t necessarily think that remasters/remakes are bad) I am not a fan of Bethesda’s current visual style for Fallout compared to Fallout 3/New Vegas in general so in this caae I’d fear they would change some really iconic designs. Oblivion afaik did it well but New Vegas and 3 fans are VERY protective of their precious games so I’d expect a lot of wariness and criticism. Plus, yeah, performance updates would be the biggest factor to include especially considering how bad New Vegas runs without mods but knowing Bethesda I would not be too hopeful lol. I’d still kill for a remaster but I’ll remain sceptical.

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    That’s a bit silly thing to say tbh. There’s nothing special about NV that can’t be recreated without source code.

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      Especially when the community makes games like fallout London on their own time. Fucking copout from weak ass developers.

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    Bethesda really shouldn’t be allowed to own these IPs anymore at this point, idk who in the AAA scene would do a better job, but something’s gotta give. They don’t give a single shit.

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      2 months ago

      The AAA industry is obsessed with using their own game engines, to the point where the AA industry can run circles around them using Unreal.

      You can give the IP to a random Norwegian (they’re always Scandinavian) game studio you’ve never heard of before and get a better product.

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        2 months ago

        Oh yes Unreal.

        The one that is causing the majority of games to play like dogshit at 20 fps with mandatory frame generation

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          That’s the studio’s fault not the game engines. There’s also unity of course and godot

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            nop unreal is dogshit for a lot more reason than dev dont optimize their games. unreal is bad for the medium but good for the industry, wich i hate it cause we have game with unreal then.