Now it’s so digital, and there is no concept of dirty money.
Dude’s never heard of crypto.
Like 80% of what drove the rise of Bitcoins value was the drugmarket, ie dirty money. I myself had more than 120 Bitcoins for a few hours. I never invested in any crypto, just to make it clear. I just went to an anonymous automat in a mall, inserted cash, wrote in a crypto wallet address, went home and purchased drugs online.
Had I been a bit smarter I prolly would’ve invested a few euros into bitcoin, but to be fair I’ve not been in a financial situation where I’ve would’ve justified waited for it to grow for 10 years. I would’ve def cashed out at a few k.
Other than that yeah I feel your comment. I remember when all the adults had proper credit cards and kids had Visa Electrons, meaning it needed verification of funds before allowing a purchase, unlike a credit card you could just charge without verification. With one of these.. Dad had one, as he had a taxi. They don’t call it a “click-clack” for nothing. Using it felt like being an actionhero and loading a shotgun.
I never mentioned anything about a spice road, so either that’s shitty sarcasm or shitty lying.
Edit sorry just bad reading by me I read “I’ve never heard of…” instead of “I have heard of”. Apologies.
Yeah cash is different, but dirty money isn’t always cash. If you believe that then you’re probably not aware how larger scale crimes work.
I am kinda annoyed with stores being allowed to not accept cash nowadays. When I was younger and drove a taxi I always had to have my own change on me, and sometimes I was broke when going to work and couldn’t break a 50 or a hundred and I’d just have to lower the fare to a sum I was able to break. Luckily hundreds were pretty rare and not being able to break one wasn’t a big deal. But breaking a 50 was assumed and once you were somewhere 20km from the nearest atm, the only choice for me was to just lower the price. Sometimes they’d tip the difference, but more often than not I had to round down like 5-10€.
I am kinda annoyed with stores being allowed to not accept cash nowadays.
I’m more annoyed they’re not required to accept something electronic. I almost never carry cash anymore.
electronic works any time, anywhere
electronic works for any currency
electronic immediately updates your account, compared to checks where you had to track pending purchases
Yes it means I can’t be anonymous, yes it makes it too easy to spend money I can’t afford. But the advantages really make up for the disadvantages (at least for me)
Either way, fees have gotten out of hand. If I need cash, I need to pay $3-$6 to get access to my money and save the bank from having to pay more tellers. But the rise of higher credit card fees is more annoying these days. I know the blame is usually put on rewards cards and agree that’s all a bit of a scam that needs to be pulled back, but part of it also is now we’re locked into using it
The law where I live pretty much says you have to accept all the most common forms of payment. Or used to, but after covid they’ve used hygiene as a reason to save on the costs of cash.
Yeah electronic is usually much easier, but unfortunately I have quite a few things which I need and/or get cash from. Which isn’t ideal, but since not doing it would mean worse things, I do do it, while waiting for my society to improve.
But Visa Electron doesn’t do all those things perfectly, btw. Better today, but I remember having overdrawn my account a bunch of times as a youth, because when I was broke I’d shop at small stores I knew that their machine didn’t properly verify funds before placing a pending purchase, even when it was supposed to not be able to do that.
Also I don’t have to pay fees to my banks or ATM’s here, not yet at least. Forex is pushing ATMs here though, with lots of ATM’s for foreign currency. Who is enough of a dipshit to use an ATM for foreign currency in their home country before going on a trip? Scams, the lot of them.
Here there is no such law. They have to accept cash but even so can place limits such as not all in coins or no unusually large bills
However electronic payments is up to their card processor. So far the major processors have mandated that you have to accept all: credit and debit processed by them (I no longer see places that don’t accept tap to pay so maybe that’s included now. American Express used to be excluded because of high fees and they are neither visa nor Mastercard, but I have no idea what the current situation is. Costco is the only place I know that only accepts visa or only accepts Mastercard, I forget which
But …… some credit cards lean in on various types of rewards back to sell a lot more cards. From the user point of view, it’s money for nothing. However that’s paid for by higher fees to merchants. As part of recent rollback of consumer protections, merchants are now allowed to charge a different price for cash vs cards and those higher fee rewards cards mean they really want to push all those fees back to the customer.
So if you have a rewards card in the US, thank you for extracting more money from the merchant, driving them to charge the rest of us more. Your cash back is funded by higher prices to me
Dude’s never heard of crypto.
Like 80% of what drove the rise of Bitcoins value was the drugmarket, ie dirty money. I myself had more than 120 Bitcoins for a few hours. I never invested in any crypto, just to make it clear. I just went to an anonymous automat in a mall, inserted cash, wrote in a crypto wallet address, went home and purchased drugs online.
Had I been a bit smarter I prolly would’ve invested a few euros into bitcoin, but to be fair I’ve not been in a financial situation where I’ve would’ve justified waited for it to grow for 10 years. I would’ve def cashed out at a few k.
Other than that yeah I feel your comment. I remember when all the adults had proper credit cards and kids had Visa Electrons, meaning it needed verification of funds before allowing a purchase, unlike a credit card you could just charge without verification. With one of these.. Dad had one, as he had a taxi. They don’t call it a “click-clack” for nothing. Using it felt like being an actionhero and loading a shotgun.
Are coin pockets even still a thing on jeans btw?
I’ve heard of cryptocurrency/bit coin and spice road, but real physical money and face to face exchange was a different feel.
Rule #3 Internet is anonymous.
It’s the way it is… But it’s different.
I never mentioned anything about a spice road, so either that’s shitty sarcasm or shitty lying.Edit sorry just bad reading by me I read “I’ve never heard of…” instead of “I have heard of”. Apologies.
Yeah cash is different, but dirty money isn’t always cash. If you believe that then you’re probably not aware how larger scale crimes work.
I am kinda annoyed with stores being allowed to not accept cash nowadays. When I was younger and drove a taxi I always had to have my own change on me, and sometimes I was broke when going to work and couldn’t break a 50 or a hundred and I’d just have to lower the fare to a sum I was able to break. Luckily hundreds were pretty rare and not being able to break one wasn’t a big deal. But breaking a 50 was assumed and once you were somewhere 20km from the nearest atm, the only choice for me was to just lower the price. Sometimes they’d tip the difference, but more often than not I had to round down like 5-10€.
I’m more annoyed they’re not required to accept something electronic. I almost never carry cash anymore.
Yes it means I can’t be anonymous, yes it makes it too easy to spend money I can’t afford. But the advantages really make up for the disadvantages (at least for me)
Either way, fees have gotten out of hand. If I need cash, I need to pay $3-$6 to get access to my money and save the bank from having to pay more tellers. But the rise of higher credit card fees is more annoying these days. I know the blame is usually put on rewards cards and agree that’s all a bit of a scam that needs to be pulled back, but part of it also is now we’re locked into using it
The law where I live pretty much says you have to accept all the most common forms of payment. Or used to, but after covid they’ve used hygiene as a reason to save on the costs of cash.
Yeah electronic is usually much easier, but unfortunately I have quite a few things which I need and/or get cash from. Which isn’t ideal, but since not doing it would mean worse things, I do do it, while waiting for my society to improve.
But Visa Electron doesn’t do all those things perfectly, btw. Better today, but I remember having overdrawn my account a bunch of times as a youth, because when I was broke I’d shop at small stores I knew that their machine didn’t properly verify funds before placing a pending purchase, even when it was supposed to not be able to do that.
Also I don’t have to pay fees to my banks or ATM’s here, not yet at least. Forex is pushing ATMs here though, with lots of ATM’s for foreign currency. Who is enough of a dipshit to use an ATM for foreign currency in their home country before going on a trip? Scams, the lot of them.
Here’s more from Janek on Honest Guides
Here there is no such law. They have to accept cash but even so can place limits such as not all in coins or no unusually large bills
However electronic payments is up to their card processor. So far the major processors have mandated that you have to accept all: credit and debit processed by them (I no longer see places that don’t accept tap to pay so maybe that’s included now. American Express used to be excluded because of high fees and they are neither visa nor Mastercard, but I have no idea what the current situation is. Costco is the only place I know that only accepts visa or only accepts Mastercard, I forget which
But …… some credit cards lean in on various types of rewards back to sell a lot more cards. From the user point of view, it’s money for nothing. However that’s paid for by higher fees to merchants. As part of recent rollback of consumer protections, merchants are now allowed to charge a different price for cash vs cards and those higher fee rewards cards mean they really want to push all those fees back to the customer.
So if you have a rewards card in the US, thank you for extracting more money from the merchant, driving them to charge the rest of us more. Your cash back is funded by higher prices to me