You named all the shit that actually helps the people in a country, then admitted the US is among the lowest in all of them…and then your singular example for why the US is so “great” is it’s the biggest economy…you literally pulled a Pam Bondi.
As for the complaint about socialism vs social democracy; you need to realize that the vast majority of people (including people in power) do not know the definitions of a god damn thing. Humans use connotation exponentially more than denotation, infinitely more so even.
You’ve managed to completely miss the point twice in a row.
I never said the United States was great because it has the largest economy. I pointed out that your claim that it ranks near last on every meaningful metric is objectively false. Those are not the same statement.
The US ranks near the top globally in income, wealth creation, technological innovation, scientific output, higher education, military power, and economic productivity. You can argue that healthcare outcomes, life expectancy, or other social metrics are more important. That’s a perfectly valid opinion. What you cannot do is pretend the other metrics stop existing because they undermine your narrative.
What’s especially amusing is that you’ve gone from claiming the US ranks near last on every meaningful metric to claiming that only the metrics you personally care about are meaningful. Those are very different arguments.
As for the socialism point, you’ve essentially admitted that you don’t know the definitions of the words you’re using and don’t particularly care to learn them.
You are arguing that because lots of people misuse a term, the misuse becomes the definition. That is not how language works. Words have meanings independent of how confidently people misuse them.
Socialism has a definition. Social democracy has a definition. Capitalism has a definition.
The fact that politicians, journalists, Reddit users, and random people on the internet routinely confuse those terms does not somehow merge them into one thing. It just means they are using the wrong words.
At this point, your position seems to be that definitions are optional whenever they become inconvenient. Unfortunately, you cannot connotate your way out of what words mean. If you’re discussing political and economic systems, the terms still have definitions whether you like them or not.
Denmark does not become socialist because people incorrectly call it socialist. The United States does not become a failure because you selectively ignore metrics where it performs well. Neither reality nor language changes simply because a lot of people on the internet are confused.
Practically all developed nations lean harder into socialism than anything else, this is a fact. Also the US has stopped practically all research, prevention, and monitoring, all the other stuff you tried bringing up besides “economy and billionaires are up so country good” is now a moot point…we literally banned the phrase “clean water” and you are still arguing this is a great country. Wake the fuck up.
You’re obviously wrong. I’ve already defined socialism for you, yet you continue to use the term incorrectly.
Socialism is public ownership of the means of production. It is not universal healthcare, wage equality, strong labor protections, or other social welfare policies. Those policies are generally associated with social democracy, which is a fundamentally different economic system.
I genuinely do not understand why this distinction is so difficult for you to grasp. These terms have specific definitions, and you keep substituting your own definitions while ignoring the actual ones.
Regardless of the political issues currently facing the United States, America remains one of the world’s leaders in economic output, higher education, wealth creation, scientific research, and medical innovation. Our healthcare system has serious flaws, particularly regarding cost, insurance companies, and the profit motive, but it is also home to many of the best hospitals, universities, researchers, and medical technologies in the world.
Yes, we have problems. Every country does. But the claim that the United States is somehow among the worst countries on Earth is disconnected from objective reality. Our GDP alone exceeds that of most nations by an enormous margin and remains one of the largest in the world.
What frustrates me is that you refuse to acknowledge verifiable facts. You redefine words, reject the accepted definitions when they are presented to you, and continue advocating for an economic system that has repeatedly failed wherever it has been implemented on a large scale.
So I’ll ask again, and this time I’d like a direct answer: What socialist country, either past or present, would you personally choose to move to?
You named all the shit that actually helps the people in a country, then admitted the US is among the lowest in all of them…and then your singular example for why the US is so “great” is it’s the biggest economy…you literally pulled a Pam Bondi.
As for the complaint about socialism vs social democracy; you need to realize that the vast majority of people (including people in power) do not know the definitions of a god damn thing. Humans use connotation exponentially more than denotation, infinitely more so even.
You’ve managed to completely miss the point twice in a row.
I never said the United States was great because it has the largest economy. I pointed out that your claim that it ranks near last on every meaningful metric is objectively false. Those are not the same statement.
The US ranks near the top globally in income, wealth creation, technological innovation, scientific output, higher education, military power, and economic productivity. You can argue that healthcare outcomes, life expectancy, or other social metrics are more important. That’s a perfectly valid opinion. What you cannot do is pretend the other metrics stop existing because they undermine your narrative.
What’s especially amusing is that you’ve gone from claiming the US ranks near last on every meaningful metric to claiming that only the metrics you personally care about are meaningful. Those are very different arguments.
As for the socialism point, you’ve essentially admitted that you don’t know the definitions of the words you’re using and don’t particularly care to learn them.
You are arguing that because lots of people misuse a term, the misuse becomes the definition. That is not how language works. Words have meanings independent of how confidently people misuse them.
Socialism has a definition. Social democracy has a definition. Capitalism has a definition.
The fact that politicians, journalists, Reddit users, and random people on the internet routinely confuse those terms does not somehow merge them into one thing. It just means they are using the wrong words.
At this point, your position seems to be that definitions are optional whenever they become inconvenient. Unfortunately, you cannot connotate your way out of what words mean. If you’re discussing political and economic systems, the terms still have definitions whether you like them or not.
Denmark does not become socialist because people incorrectly call it socialist. The United States does not become a failure because you selectively ignore metrics where it performs well. Neither reality nor language changes simply because a lot of people on the internet are confused.
Get some reading comprehension dog, holy shit.
Coming from the person who thinks all countries are socialist. Prick.
Practically all developed nations lean harder into socialism than anything else, this is a fact. Also the US has stopped practically all research, prevention, and monitoring, all the other stuff you tried bringing up besides “economy and billionaires are up so country good” is now a moot point…we literally banned the phrase “clean water” and you are still arguing this is a great country. Wake the fuck up.
You’re obviously wrong. I’ve already defined socialism for you, yet you continue to use the term incorrectly.
Socialism is public ownership of the means of production. It is not universal healthcare, wage equality, strong labor protections, or other social welfare policies. Those policies are generally associated with social democracy, which is a fundamentally different economic system.
I genuinely do not understand why this distinction is so difficult for you to grasp. These terms have specific definitions, and you keep substituting your own definitions while ignoring the actual ones.
Regardless of the political issues currently facing the United States, America remains one of the world’s leaders in economic output, higher education, wealth creation, scientific research, and medical innovation. Our healthcare system has serious flaws, particularly regarding cost, insurance companies, and the profit motive, but it is also home to many of the best hospitals, universities, researchers, and medical technologies in the world.
Yes, we have problems. Every country does. But the claim that the United States is somehow among the worst countries on Earth is disconnected from objective reality. Our GDP alone exceeds that of most nations by an enormous margin and remains one of the largest in the world.
What frustrates me is that you refuse to acknowledge verifiable facts. You redefine words, reject the accepted definitions when they are presented to you, and continue advocating for an economic system that has repeatedly failed wherever it has been implemented on a large scale.
So I’ll ask again, and this time I’d like a direct answer: What socialist country, either past or present, would you personally choose to move to?