I dont want to start a fight or anything like that, I have to decide between these 2 and cant figure out which is the best and why, mostly because if you ask on X they just start swearing to each other without giving any real explanation, can anyone help a person who want to embrace privacy and anonimity?
GrapheneOS is unmatched when it comes to security features including hardening. Don’t get me wrong calyx is great and when you like to use microG then it’s there. With graphene you can also install google play and framework (if you wish so) but in a different approach. It’s like a normal app. So you can do it with network access given or not even etc… it’s worth to test out also the profiles and separate your life into profiles… you can have on one google service on one not etc… and all getting push notifications. Most banking apps work (to be honest very had any issues.)
With calyx like I say it’s a privacy but not security hardened approach. And calyx been back in security updates what been pushed from google sometimes for months. For me it’s a clear choice but it’s your call…
There is some more reading here from the DivestOS site about why Graphene Is better.
https://divestos.org/pages/patch_levels
I still dont understand how the graphene sandboxing is better than microG that is a randomized ID more or less, why I should install feds apps on my phone? even if they’re sandoboxed
its down to your threat model, microg runs as root, sandboxed play runs as a normal app.
There is one philosophy that says the less privileges the better, the smaller the risk surface
oooh ok, now its all clear, thats why people blame microG for security stuff, thats right didnt thought about that at all, damn dumb me fr, thanks man, thanks for the help
You can choose not to use it at all. My main profile does not and all work fine. Non privacy respecting/ goggle dependent apps I keep in a separate profile.
You can’t do that on calyx.
Since play on GOS is toothless , while microG is a hacked up job yea it’s better. Microg is ofc amazing , but still a have issues.
If you’re not running play services youll have to set up push notifications with something like ntfy or use background sync which uses more batteries.
Ntfy for apps that support it
Could you please elaborate so that I know what to look into? I plan to switch and no notifications is a concern of mine.
When I was looking into Graphene people said the issue is lack of notifications. Is this outdated info?
Any android without google play. Many apps lack notifications outside of firebase.
whats firebase?
API for push notifications
foss google play alternative?
https://f-droid.org/en/2022/12/18/unifiedpush.html
ntfy and unifiedpush