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    People should vote for Biden over the other guy because the other guy is the worst.

    But Biden and his team are fucking morons if they believe funding a genocide won’t cost them any votes. Democratic voters aren’t in a cult, don’t expect 100% of them to fall in line when their president doing extremely unpopular things.

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      Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Support Gaza, you lose the Jewish vote, and that might be something that could actually hand victories to the Republicans.

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          That is not at all what I am saying. I absolutely think what Israel is doing in Gaza is terrible.

          Now this might just be me talking at a wall at this point, but to give you the benefit of the doubt, my earlier comment is just me speaking pragmatically. I disagree with the premise of the article, that Biden will lose the election to Trump or whichever other Republican candidate is nominated due to his stance on Palestine, for a couple reasons.

          First is that the Republicans are no more likely to support Palestine than the Democrats. In fact, I’d argue the opposite is true. I see the situation only escalating further with how overtly anti-Muslim the majority of Republicans are.

          Second is the idea that choosing not to support Palestine is going to cost more voters than it gains. The US is deeply divided on this issue, but the fact of the matter is that there are more people taking Israel’s side in the US than Palestine’s. It is likelier that Republicans would gain more votes from Biden siding with Palestine than Biden is losing by siding with Israel.

          If this article is contributing to a narrative that more people should vote for Trump over Biden because of Biden’s lack of support towards Palestine, and if that causes Trump to win, then all hope of a future for Palestine is truly lost.

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        Support Gaza, you lose the Jewish vote

        Support Gaza civilians, you lose the Jewish genocide supporter vote

        FTFY

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        you lose the Jewish vote

        israelis are fascists, not jews.

        Anyways Biden just had hundreds of jews arrested for supporting palestine just the other day so I think he’s still losing the jewish vote since they can’t do that from prison

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      But Biden and his team are fucking morons if they believe funding a genocide won’t cost them any votes. Democratic voters aren’t in a cult, don’t expect 100% of them to fall in line when their president doing extremely unpopular things.

      if you aren’t in a cult then you should leave when the party does A FUCKING GENOCIDE

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        And do what, vote for Republicans? If you really cared about genocide the Democrats are the only party that have a ceasefire now caucus the USA. The squad has been great.

        Not any great options next November. I just want others to focus on blaming leaders because Americans get in a bad habit of blaming voters when time and again it’s the leaders doing stuff the voters never asked for.