• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    But you realise that the homicide rate is going up, not down, while gun ownership is going up, right?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

    You’re so hell bent on defending your right to have a gun that you forget the definition of words. Again, if they were necessary then you wouldn’t have people around you that didn’t own them because all of them would be dead, that’s what needing something implies. Stop eating food for a couple of months and you’ll understand the difference between desires and needs.

    Just because the ownership rate is going up doesn’t mean people need one, it could simply mean people are scared and the population is divided so they try to find a way to reassure themselves, just like you’re doing, but the need is to solve the underlying issue.

    Like someone who’s depressed, they can start taking anti depressants and live like that for the rest of their life, but what they actually need is help to solve the underlying issue, if that doesn’t happen all that leads to is more and more people on anti depressants.

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      1 year ago

      It had been going down from '93-2016 and gun sales were rising. Remind me, did anything else happen in this country in and since 2016? Anything that maybe could have contributed to violence like political or economic issues? There are more than one variable at play in real life situations, not everything can be boiled down to “gun,” it’s the same thinking as the racists who try to boil down everything to “black,” it’s just narrow minded and refusing to look at the bigger picture, like the actual causes of violence in the case of guns, or overpolicing of black neighborhoods because of racist police.

      Lmao people do die, every single day, because they were the victim of a violent crime and lacked the appropriate defensive tools. That fits your definition of “need” which hinges solely on survival. By that logic, literally all anyone ever needs is food, water, and shelter, even when said shelter is actively on fire from the food you cooked, then they don’t need a fire extinguisher, because it isn’t potable, edible, nor good building material. You’re being obtuse and you know it lol.

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        1 year ago

        Glad to see you understand that what’s a necessity is to solve the other issues that lead to violence, so we agree that guns aren’t a necessity to the vast majority of people, some just make the choice to want a gun to protect themselves while others don’t (proof that guns aren’t needed).

        Good talk 👍

        • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          1 year ago

          Lol, no, me making fun of your ridiculous definition of “need” is the complete opposite of agreeing. I prefer the definition the rest of the world uses, y’know, the nondelusional people.

          https://www.wordnik.com/words/need

          noun A condition or situation in which something must be supplied in order for a certain condition to be maintained or a desired state to be achieved. noun Something required or wanted; a requisite. noun Necessity; obligation. noun A condition of poverty or misfortune. intransitive verb To be under the necessity of or the obligation to. intransitive verb To have need of; require. intransitive verb To have an obligation (to do something). intransitive verb To be subject (to an action) by obligation. intransitive verb To want to be subject to. intransitive verb To be in need or want. intransitive verb To be necessary.

          Not one of those mentions “will die without.” That’s you. You aren’t the arbiter of definitions no matter what your delusions of grandeur convince you of.

                • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  1 year ago

                  OOOHHH I get it, I don’t agree with your point so you must mean you’ve come around to see that the definition of the word itself actually doesn’t support your argument at all and now you agree with me.

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                    1 year ago

                    I thought you agreed with me after proving times and times again that guns aren’t a necessity, funny that… It’s funny because all that you said pointed to that from the get go… Weird.