I have seen some critical views on Nostr as a part of decentralized network discussions, but most seem to be focused on culture not function.

What are the functional / protocol differences that make you prefer ActivityPub over Nostr?

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      So there are no moderation tools / whitelist/blacklists?

      This is a good thing: bitchasses need to learn words are harmless & they can ignore them like humanity has done for millennia. It’s not built into the servers. Client-side tooling would handle it, so it’s entirely at the discretion of the user, which seems better to me.

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        It’s not about that even if you reduce it to purely that. Without moderation every platform becomes infested by spammers, trolls, astroturfers. Topical communities lose focus and communities become little more than hashtags.

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          Yup, better. Moderation should be opt-in & is better handled at the client: the user could opt-in to a “moderation community” that publishes tags their client would follow. Such curation for anyone who wants that is a better idea. Far better than moderators we don’t get to choose.

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            Yup, better.

            Why is that better?

            Moderation should be opt-in & is better handled at the client: the user could opt-in to a “moderation community” that publishes tags their client would follow.

            Debateable given that any community anywhere online still needs to remove CSAM and gore and other things.

            And what do you mean by “tags” here? Just hashtags or something else? Because a hashtag under a no-moderation concept could still be hijacked.

            Far better than moderators we don’t get to choose.

            Well I suggest you go there then, because the fediverse will never be what you want it to be.

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              Why is that better?

              User control & flexibility > illegitimate authority. Also, I remember an earlier, untamed, unrulier, more subversive internet than this corporate-friendly crap: it was funner.

              any community anywhere online still needs to remove CSAM and gore and other things.

              Legal compliance is different from legally unnecessary moderation.

              Because a hashtag under a no-moderation concept could still be hijacked.

              Not really: Nostr content is cryptographically signed. User’s client subscribes to some content curators who post as signed events their tags for other events. The client processes these tagging events to filter according to the user’s preferences.

              Some proposals already exist:

              the fediverse will never be what you want it to be

              Not the topic of discussion, which is function & protocol.

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                Legal compliance is different from legally unnecessary moderation.

                Right, so there would still need to be moderators. And if they can remove that, they can remove anything.

                Not the topic of discussion, which is function & protocol.

                Right, but you’re just gunna have an unpleasant time here if you loath all moderation. It’s that simple.

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                  And if they can remove that, they can remove anything.

                  That’s why there’s no limit on the number of relays (events usually publish to multiple) or subscriptions to them (clients usually subscribe to multiple).

                  unpleasant time here if you loath all moderation

                  Still off topic, and the moderators here aren’t reddit moderator scum so far. The modlog offers decent transparency.

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                    That’s why there’s no limit on the number of relays (events usually publish to multiple) or subscriptions to them (clients usually subscribe to multiple).

                    I’m lost. If a mod removes child porn on NOSTR, it removes it for everyone, right?

                    Still off topic, and the moderators here aren’t reddit moderator scum so far.

                    Well, sure, but you can still be moderated.