• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    This isn’t a “vacation” for federal employees. Many of which will have to go without pay but continue working until it’s resolved.

    A very very tiny percent get paid with non appropriated funds and will keep getting paid.

    But even the military won’t, we’ll back pay them, but most Americans live paycheck to paycheck. And even one missed check can have drastic consequences.

    People enter federal service for stability, and Republicans constantly trying to take that away is just another way they try to shrink the government

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      Yes, and at times like these some military leaders tend to tell troops to “be financially ready” to go unpaid, and “there is no excuse for not paying your bills on time”.

      Late and missed payments are sometimes reported to members’ leadership by the debtors, especially landlords. Normally this isn’t such a bad thing, since service members are expected to be on top of their debts at all times–but being punished for this when going unpaid is completely cruel.

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        It works too.

        When I was in we got lined up for muster before elections days and our leadership would talk about how “this never happens with a Republican pres and voting is important”.

        Completely ignorant that the reason is Dems won’t hold our military hostage for funding cuts to social programs.

        The reason it almost never happens with a Republican pres, is republicans are the ones that make it happen.

        And yeah, the main reason people lose security clearances (military and fed civilians) is financial issues like debts.

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          “this never happens with a Republican pres and voting is important”

          Wow, in my experience they usually try to be more subtle than that.

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            I was in an engine room in the Navy…

            Fist fighting was still an acceptable way to solve personal disputes, and higher ups intentionally ignored stuff like the occasional black eye. It’s like the last bastion of “old navy”

            The culture wasn’t a good thing, people got away with a lot of shit because no matter what happened, the ship has to keep moving.

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      11 months ago

      They’ll get paid eventually, they always do. It’s not a vacation, it’s an unscheduled staycation.

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        You think during a shutdown people don’t have to work, but still get paid?

        Maybe if they’re able to take leave, but that still their leave. And taking it now means they can’t take it when they want to. Taking off for a shutdown might mean they can’t take off around the holidays, they might not even have leave to take. Some like the VA don’t even have that option. They have to keep working regardless of if they’re getting paid.

        It’s not “free days off” like so many people who’ve never worked a day in their lives for the government keep saying.

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          Yes they will get paid eventually. They put that into law after 2019. If you are furloughed, you cannot use leave. Even if you are emergency essential and still working during the shutdown, I don’t believe that you can be paid for leave (but you can still take it if it was scheduled before the shutdown).

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      but most Americans live paycheck to paycheck

      This just seems like living outside of your means to me. Make better life choices so you’re not living paycheck to paycheck.

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        “Just be born rich, duh. If you can’t do that, just go get a job that makes a lot of money! It’s simple, you idiots!”

        ffs

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          Lol, government job with a pension but can’t manage because need lifted truck. Ok

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          What is the average salary for a government employee? People buy all kinds of shit they don’t need then get surprised Pikachu when the credit card bill comes. Sorry, but I’m in the real world. I see it everyday.

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        Sure. Just as soon as wages catch up with the increases to the cost of living. Something that hasn’t happened in my lifetime.