• moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
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    11 hours ago

    Absolute misinformation. Look at California and tell me there is such a thing as unfarmable land.

    If cattle can graze there, you can grow crops there.

    In fact, cattle require an enormous amount of more resources (eg water) than crops do

    • gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org
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      8 hours ago

      sure, you can even grow wheat in the desert, assuming you use enough artificial watering systems.

      in fact many countries even do this.

      this is egypt for example.

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      11 hours ago

      Have you traveled around? The foothills have a lot of very rocky slopes and terrain. Terrace farming is extremely expensive and labor intensive. Vineyards are the only crop grown on slopes at scale, and we already have too many grapes.

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        10 hours ago

        Them using land is not the only thing they do.

        They drink water for example, a kg of cow meat requires 1000L of water. This is not a problem everywhere, but it can be.

        They eat grass and there are many places where they have the space and the climate to walk around and eat the grass that is there, but many places they need additional food. Their biggest source of protein is usually soy. Most of that soy comes from south-america: first they burn down a forest to make space, then they plant genetically modified soy. This soy is modified to be resistant to pesticides. They spray the entire plot with these chemicals, so everything dies except the soy. This stuff travels beyond the borders of the farmers land, killing local wildlife and threatening the ecosystem.

        Also not all cows are treated well. A cow only gives milk after birth, so each year a cow has to be insimenated and birth a baby cow. A cow can live for decades, but their body is working so hard many won’t live over 10 years.

        Another problem is that cows are given hormones and antibiotics, residues of which end up in consumer meat.

        I’m not writing this because I believe we should go to a 100% plant-based society, but the current system of mass-production is a lose-lose situation for everyone except for the people making a (small) profit.

        • gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org
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          8 hours ago

          the treatment of animals is pretty bad in a lot of modern industrial setups. that doesn’t mean that all milk products are bad, though. for example, things are very different if you look at italy, compared to the US.

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            8 hours ago

            Make sure you tell everyone and tell them how they are supposed to live. Make sure to use a lot of fake science.

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              5 hours ago

              I already started posting it all over NextDoor. Next I’m going to protest the meat, wool, and egg vendors at farmers market tomorrow.