• vxx@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    You shouldn’t use the term ‘subhumans’. It’s literally Nazi lingo.

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      1 year ago

      I think it applies to conservatives though.

      I feel it’s justified because conservatism is a choice.

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        But it was only used by Nationalsocialists and Eugenicists to describe in their opinion genetically undesirables. Jews were called that for example. It’s the excuse they got killed for by Nazis.

        You get on the same level as Nazi supporters using it to describe other humans.

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      Conservatives lack humanity. Empathy is simply not a conservative trait. It is seen only as a weakness to exploit.

      Conservatives see every interaction as a transaction. If they pretend to be empathetic with you, they feel they have done you a favor. If they show you enough kindness, they will feel you owe them something in return. A conservative cannot fathom that people can be kind simply for the sake of kindness. That is just seen as weakness to a conservative. As they would put it, “that’s some liberal shit”.

      When conservatives show some humanity, then I will begin seeing them as humans. Remember, if you are not conservative, they see you as their enemy. They do not see you as human and do not value your life in the slightest. Humanizing an enemy that is incapable of humanizing you is a recipe for death. Use caution.

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        The best protection from Nazism is to recognize that Nazis were normal people like us, not some strange nonhuman species. If we recognize this we can see that many people can be turned that way when the circumstances push them towards it. So we should watch ourselves. It’s when this gets forgotten and Nazis become caricature movie villains that we let our guard down. It’s no coincidence that fascism resurges when the WW2 generations have mostly died out, taking their memories with them, and Nazis in popular culture have become cartoon baddies.

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          The conservatives were never normal. Not in 1930 and not today. Conservatives act polite and keep their hatred to themselves when it suits their best interests. But the moment a conservative feels safe to be themselves, the hate flows forth. Hitler did not create the nazis anymore than trump created the magats. They were always shitbags. They just needed someone to give them permission to be themselves.

          Conservatives are natural predators of any group they see as vulnerable. They seek out weakness to exploit in normal people. Normal people do not do such things to others.

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            I think we’re not disagreeing but just using “normal” in different senses. I mean “not unusual” (half of the population leans conservative) while you mean something like “well adjusted” or “healthy”.

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              Fair enough. I do not see hate-based ideologies as “normal”. Nearly every act of racism, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, misogyny, or other bigotry committed in history has been committed by conservatives.

              When we treat bigots as normal members of society, we normalize bigotry. They are not normal. They are harmful. There is simply no place in a modern society for conservatism.

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        1 year ago

        I agree with flooffloof here. But again and just for clarity, subhuman doesn’t mean what you think it means. You’re saying they’re that way because of their genes.

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          I’m saying they are never going to change and will do everything they can to erase you. Treating them like humans is how you give them an unecessary advantage. They will never return the favor. They neither need nor want your kindness. They only want you to not exist.

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            Again, subhuman doesn’t mean what you think it means.

            You’re literally spreading Nazi propaganda.

            And the rest you say was also adressed and I disagree. Hitler was indeed a human, and it’s dangerous to suggest he wasn’t.

            You seem radicalised, that’s a dangerous path to go down, even with the right intentions. In fact, Nazis were convinced they had good intentions as well. Republican voters too. And Elon Musk as well.

            How do you think many germans were able to kill jews the way they did? They were convinced they weren’t human. Why do you think Putin is demonising and dehumanising Ukrainians?

            Do you want to lock up or kill 40% of US citizens since they’re unredeemable monsters?