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goat@sh.itjust.works to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

Hamas tunnel found at Gaza's Al Shifa hospital, says Israel; UN aid halted

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Israeli soldiers found a tunnel shaft used by Hamas militants at Gaza's Al Shifa hospital, the army said, while the U.N. voiced concern no aid would be delivered to Palestinians on Friday via the Rafah crossing with Egypt.
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  • dasgoat@lemmy.world
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    This spread is pathetic. All the evidence they supposedly have is pathetic. This is supposed to be ‘THE headquarters of the Al-Aqsa brigade’.

    And all they have is… like 12 AKs, some ammo and, oh no, wd40.

    It’s utterly deranged how Israel thinks this shit will fly. Hell, even the Jerusalem Post is saying it’s all rather pathetic lol.

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      They don’t even have copies of The Sims, how can we even take them seriously?

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        I thought it was 3 SIMs that was evil, not the original! I’m doomed.

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      Really, it’s turning into a meme. You’ve been there for 5 days, have bulldozers at your service? Just give me that Daniels job, I could have made up better propaganda by now. Just effing dig a tunnel and proceed to lie again to the press and ‘present’ your evidence lol.

      They’re not even trying to justify shit at this point, too busy killing civilians and making a parking lot.

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        It really is the darkest joke of them all how bad this all is. But the media eat this shit up

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      In case there is any doubt caused by the ongoing gaslighting that Hamas doesn’t use hospitals for military purposes, there is over a decade of reports of Hamas using Al-Shifa Hospital:

      PBS documentary in Al-Shifa hospital was prevented by Hamas members with weapons from accessing areas of the hospital:

      https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/top-secret-hamas-command-bunker-in-gaza-revealed

      Article from 2009 talking about an intelligence claim of Hamas using the basement of the hospital:

      https://web.archive.org/web/20090206232152/http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054569.html

      Article Hamas commandeered hospital wards in Al-Shifa converting them into interrogation and imprisonment compounds:

      https://web.archive.org/web/20230205050631/https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3668018,00.html

      Human Rights Watch states Hamas fired from inside Al-Shifa at Fatah forces:

      https://www.hrw.org/news/2007/06/12/gaza-armed-palestinian-groups-commit-grave-crimes

      Report that Hospital staff made complaints about Hamas presence in the building:

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1906608/

      New York Times reported on Hamas operating from the building:

      https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/29/world/africa/29iht-gaza.4.18986499.html?module=Search&mabReward=relbias%3Ar

      Journalists seeing rockets being fired from the hospital area:

      https://web.archive.org/web/20230529141259/https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4553643,00.html

      Another report of journalists seeing rockets fired from the hospital area:

      https://web.archive.org/web/20230513143525/https://www.jpost.com///operation-protective-edge/gaza-reporters-tweets-hamas-using-human-shields-368689#!

      A Hamas member recounting how he and other Hamas members took shelter in a bunker under the hospital:

      https://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/18321/

      Local Palestinian journalist reported Hamas uses a section of the hospital for offices:

      https://archive.ph/BKbxc

      Amnesty International reported Hamas using the hospital to torture and kill prisoners:

      https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/05/gaza-palestinians-tortured-summarily-killed-by-hamas-forces-during-2014-conflict/

      Source

      • interceder270@lemmy.world
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        Did you read all those?

    • Hatsune Miku @lemmy.world
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      it haven’t even been a day since they’ve taken over the hospital

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        ‘Taken over’ you mean raided a hospital, illegal under international law, then held the shittiest presser in history. Dude there is this guy you would love to meet, he goes by Baghdad Bob.

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          Article 19 of the Geneva Convention.

          Hospitals lose their immunities when combatants use it to store military equipment or house active combatants.

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            Dude they found like 12 aks and a can of wd40 lmao, it’s an active warzone of course there’s going to be weapons.

            Go say that to the premature babies that are dying as of right now.

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              Even in an active warzone you cannot store military equipment (except medical aid, of course) in a hospital. Also the WD40 cans are IED’s, improvised explosive devices.

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                Turns out every US neighborhood is a warzone because they have more than 12 guns and cans of WD40.

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                  The cans of WD40 are IEDs. Improvised Explosive Devices. They are filled with explosive material.

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                Removed by mod

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                  bruh

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            “… the presence of small arms and ammunition taken from such combatants and not yet handed to the proper service, shall not be considered to be acts harmful to the enemy”.

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              Article 19 of the Geneva Convention

              The protection to which civilian hospitals are entitled shall not cease unless they are used to commit, outside their humanitarian duties, acts harmful to the enemy. Protection may, however, cease only after due warning has been given, naming, in all appropriate cases, a reasonable time limit, and after such warning has remained unheeded.

              The fact that sick or wounded members of the armed forces are nursed in these hospitals, or the presence of small arms and ammunition taken from such combatants which have not yet been handed to the proper service, shall not be considered to be acts harmful to the enemy.

              Israel, UN, the EU, Amnesty International all requested that Hamas stops using hospitals to store military equipment. Hamas did not follow the warnings.

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                They also specifically refrain from saying it does or did happen, essentially an admonishment for something they might be doing “if you’re using hospitals, stop” don’t read more into it then there is.

                Ed: I’ll put it this way, I’ll make a bet there are weapons inside of Israeli hospitals taking care of IDF personnel, there is specific language in reference to it because it is an absolute necessity in combat care.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    GAZA/JERUSALEM, Nov 17 (Reuters) - Israeli soldiers found a tunnel shaft used by Hamas militants at Gaza’s Al Shifa hospital, the army said, while the U.N. voiced concern no aid would be delivered to Palestinians on Friday via the Rafah crossing with Egypt.

    The video, which Reuters could not immediately verify, showed a deep hole in the ground, littered with and surrounded by concrete and wood rubble and sand.

    Hamas said in a statement late on Thursday that claims by the Pentagon and U.S. State Department that the group uses Al Shifa for military purposes “is a repetition of a blatantly false narrative, demonstrated by the weak and ridiculous performances of the occupation army spokesman.”

    The United States is confident in an assessment from its own intelligence agencies on Hamas activities in Al Shifa hospital and will neither share nor elaborate on it, White House spokesperson John Kirby said on Thursday.

    Gaza health authorities deemed reliable by the United Nations say at least 11,500 people have been confirmed killed in an Israeli bombardment and ground invasion - more than 4,700 of them children.

    Israel distributed pamphlets telling civilians to leave four towns in southern Gaza, areas Gazans had been previously told would be safe.


    The original article contains 619 words, the summary contains 204 words. Saved 67%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    In case there is any doubt caused by the ongoing gaslighting that Hamas doesn’t use hospitals for military purposes, there is over a decade of reports of Hamas using Al-Shifa Hospital:

    PBS documentary in Al-Shifa hospital was prevented by Hamas members with weapons from accessing areas of the hospital:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/top-secret-hamas-command-bunker-in-gaza-revealed

    Article from 2009 talking about an intelligence claim of Hamas using the basement of the hospital:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20090206232152/http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054569.html

    Article Hamas commandeered hospital wards in Al-Shifa converting them into interrogation and imprisonment compounds:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20230205050631/https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3668018,00.html

    Human Rights Watch states Hamas fired from inside Al-Shifa at Fatah forces:

    https://www.hrw.org/news/2007/06/12/gaza-armed-palestinian-groups-commit-grave-crimes

    Report that Hospital staff made complaints about Hamas presence in the building:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1906608/

    New York Times reported on Hamas operating from the building:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/29/world/africa/29iht-gaza.4.18986499.html?module=Search&mabReward=relbias%3Ar

    Journalists seeing rockets being fired from the hospital area:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20230529141259/https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4553643,00.html

    Another report of journalists seeing rockets fired from the hospital area:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20230513143525/https://www.jpost.com///operation-protective-edge/gaza-reporters-tweets-hamas-using-human-shields-368689#!

    A Hamas member recounting how he and other Hamas members took shelter in a bunker under the hospital:

    https://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/18321/

    Local Palestinian journalist reported Hamas uses a section of the hospital for offices:

    https://archive.ph/BKbxc

    Amnesty International reported Hamas using the hospital to torture and kill prisoners:

    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/05/gaza-palestinians-tortured-summarily-killed-by-hamas-forces-during-2014-conflict/

    Source

    • interceder270@lemmy.world
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      Did you read all those?

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    Be great to see the truth, but Hamas were a known terrorist organisation so i think theyre less then truthful.

    America isnt exactly a pariah of truth either.

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      America isn’t sharing its information on the matter with the public.

      I wonder why.

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