PARIS, Nov 27 (Reuters) - Six teenagers go on trial behind closed doors on Monday, accused of involvement in the beheading of French history teacher Samuel Paty by a suspected Islamist in 2020 in an attack that struck at the heart of the country’s secular values.

The teacher had shown his pupils cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad in a class on freedom of expression, angering a number of Muslim parents. Muslims believe that any depiction of the Prophet is blasphemous.

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    The five other minors to be prosecuted, aged between 14 and 15 at the time of the attack, will be charged with premeditated criminal conspiracy, or ambush.

    They are suspected of having pointed out Paty to the murderer or helped monitor his exit from the school.

    They weren’t involved in the killing, they are guilty of pointing him out.

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          Which part of “helped monitor his exit” did you not get? They stalked him with the intent to assist the assassination. By your logic, many people aren’t actually criminals because they’re not the ones who actually carried out the murder, they just directed it.

          I’m not saying they should get the death penalty but what they did was heinous and deserves more than 2.5 years.

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            And yet, still they are not responsible for killing and beheading him, the adult who did it is.

            Nowhere does it state your xenophobic assumptions about how you feel over the event.

            For all they knew he was going to simply speak with the teacher, or maybe kick his ass.

            Tell me, why do you assume so freely that all of the Muslim kids were deeply involved in the beheading itself? I find that very interesting…

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                Did we?

                The only source I can find on such a thing is post Nuremberg trials, and it was ten nazi generals that definitely deserved it.

                I did find a source for 23,000 out of 35,000 deserting Nazis were killed by their own party for fleeing war, so maybe you were thinking of that while being a nazi?

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                  The point is that you do not actually need to have killed anyone yourself for you to get the most severe punishment available. If they’re a fascist, put them before a court and let them be judged. But there’s a problem. The people are not yet antagonized against fascism enough. Too many people are accepting or indifferent of it.

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                    But there’s a problem. The people are not yet antagonized against fascism enough

                    That…and the fact they are like 14 and not fascists, but yeah, other than that nothing you say is crazy at all!

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              Where did I say they were directly involved in the beheading? I know xenophobic is a big word for you but you should still look up the definition before just tossing it around like that.

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                You speak of me needing to improve my literacy and yet you’re the one confusing deeply involved with directly.

                Unless you’re just backpedaling and attempting to obfuscate the point, now.

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          If you play by felony murder rules, they’re just as guilty since they participated in the planning and actively participated (by waiting for / stalking the victim and pointing him out to their co-conspirator).

          In some places if you help plan and participate in a crime that results in a death you’re equally culpable of the murder - even if you weren’t in the same room as the killing. Escape car drivers frequently get death row for a murder that happened in the course of the crime.

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            The dude showed up at their school and found some 14 year olds that would tell him who the teacher was for money.

            He also told them he was just going to make the teacher apologize, not cut his fucking head off, my guy.

            Slow your roll with sticking some tricked dumb kids to prison for life over some shit they had no control over to begin with.