"It's called precedent," the Senate Judiciary Committee chair said of violating the same rule that Republicans ignored to move forward with judicial nominees.
The sad thing is you’re both right. The Democrats ARE the only adults in the room, but they’re still also self-serving asshats. Do not forget how friendly Dems are with big business. Do not forget how friendly Democrats are with the insurance industry. Do not forget how much they sit on their hands…
Democrats ARE adults… but they aren’t good adults. Yes, we need less children in the room before we can more easily suss out who the competent adults are.
But let’s not pretend every adult in the government is competent simply because Republicans enjoy shitting their pants.
Based on all the weird downvotes in this thread, it seems Lemmy might be losing its taste for subtlety.
You are absolutely right that most are a bunch of self-serving asshats. In my experience, the sign of a mature adult is someone who can admit when they’re wrong and do the right thing even when it’s less convenient than doing the wrong thing. Dems do the wrong thing a lot, and calling them out on it is one of the few ways we can force change. They also do the right thing way more often than the GOP. Dem’s corruption often seems less flagrant than the GOP’s because they couch it in neoliberal pro-business language. It’s still corruption, and the GOP is still way worse. Both things can be true.
Based on all the weird downvotes in this thread, it seems Lemmy might be losing its taste for subtlety.
Threads criticizing neoliberals always get a suspicious amount of downvotes relative to the amount of rebuttals. It’s almost as if the people doing it hate your criticism, but can’t articulate any reason you’re wrong.
Nah, folks that are center-left are tired of the same out-group/in-group games. Not far enough left? Then one is practically in bed with fascists. It is tiresome, and plenty of folks are weary of laying out the difference in lieu of having meaningful discussions.
Threads criticizing neoliberals always get a suspicious amount of downvotes relative to the amount of rebuttals.
Even your own comment has the whiff of conspiracy where it need not be.
Yea… It’s really sad when people turn it in to team sports. One side being really bad does not magically make the other “team” the good guys… They’re both fucking awful representative parties unless you make a healthy six figures or more, which of course is a small minority of the populous they’re supposed to represent…
Then people come in here and act like Biden is Jesus for making a union deal right after crushing a union strike… Smacks so much of everyone sucking Obama off for the ACA when it’s LITERALLY a Republican plan from the 90s.
People need to remember who the Democrats actually are. There’s a reason they have a tepid response to the rise of fascism.
No one is calling the Democrats perfect or suggesting they couldn’t be better. But they are demonstrably better than the GOP, even if that’s a low bar. They consistently pass legislation and enact policies to the benefit of the whole nation, not just the donor class.
When the complaint is that they’re not good enough, they’re being blamed for not catering exclusively to the progressive base the way Republicans cater to theirs. Which refutes the notion that “both sides are the same” on its own.
Yes, we should hold their feet to the fire and convince them to do better. But we should do it without boosting Republican talking points like “both sides.” Better to say “they’re good, but they could be better.”
The sad thing is you’re both right. The Democrats ARE the only adults in the room, but they’re still also self-serving asshats. Do not forget how friendly Dems are with big business. Do not forget how friendly Democrats are with the insurance industry. Do not forget how much they sit on their hands…
Democrats ARE adults… but they aren’t good adults. Yes, we need less children in the room before we can more easily suss out who the competent adults are.
But let’s not pretend every adult in the government is competent simply because Republicans enjoy shitting their pants.
Based on all the weird downvotes in this thread, it seems Lemmy might be losing its taste for subtlety.
You are absolutely right that most are a bunch of self-serving asshats. In my experience, the sign of a mature adult is someone who can admit when they’re wrong and do the right thing even when it’s less convenient than doing the wrong thing. Dems do the wrong thing a lot, and calling them out on it is one of the few ways we can force change. They also do the right thing way more often than the GOP. Dem’s corruption often seems less flagrant than the GOP’s because they couch it in neoliberal pro-business language. It’s still corruption, and the GOP is still way worse. Both things can be true.
Threads criticizing neoliberals always get a suspicious amount of downvotes relative to the amount of rebuttals. It’s almost as if the people doing it hate your criticism, but can’t articulate any reason you’re wrong.
Nah, folks that are center-left are tired of the same out-group/in-group games. Not far enough left? Then one is practically in bed with fascists. It is tiresome, and plenty of folks are weary of laying out the difference in lieu of having meaningful discussions.
Even your own comment has the whiff of conspiracy where it need not be.
Yea… It’s really sad when people turn it in to team sports. One side being really bad does not magically make the other “team” the good guys… They’re both fucking awful representative parties unless you make a healthy six figures or more, which of course is a small minority of the populous they’re supposed to represent…
Then people come in here and act like Biden is Jesus for making a union deal right after crushing a union strike… Smacks so much of everyone sucking Obama off for the ACA when it’s LITERALLY a Republican plan from the 90s.
People need to remember who the Democrats actually are. There’s a reason they have a tepid response to the rise of fascism.
No one is calling the Democrats perfect or suggesting they couldn’t be better. But they are demonstrably better than the GOP, even if that’s a low bar. They consistently pass legislation and enact policies to the benefit of the whole nation, not just the donor class.
When the complaint is that they’re not good enough, they’re being blamed for not catering exclusively to the progressive base the way Republicans cater to theirs. Which refutes the notion that “both sides are the same” on its own.
Yes, we should hold their feet to the fire and convince them to do better. But we should do it without boosting Republican talking points like “both sides.” Better to say “they’re good, but they could be better.”