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    Not remotely the issue here. This isn’t about banning, this is about not having or having nazi simps influencing a political party. Huge difference between, “can’t be a part of our group if you associate”, and, “associating with these People is verboten!”

    Much like Folks that fly to Moscow on July 4th so they can bend knee to pootie should not be allowed in Congress. Nazis should not be involved in any Political Party which remains relevant. But here we are.

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      The crazy thing is a lot of people forget about that July 4th trip by Republicans to kiss Putin’s ass in Moscow. So much insane shit happened during Trump’s 4 years, it’s all so overwhelming. Plenty of traitors in that administration - well before Jan. 6th too.

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      Personally I don’t think banning associating with any group is a good thing. There lies neo-McCarthyism.

      Not remotely the issue here. This isn’t about banning, this is about not having or having nazi simps influencing a political party.

      Really? Because the article spells out the problem in the second paragraph.

      In a 32-29 vote, the party’s executive committee decided against excluding from their organization those “known to espouse or tolerate antisemitism, pro-Nazi sympathies or Holocaust denial”. A proposal to ban such individuals was included in a resolution supporting Israel as it wars with Hamas in Gaza.

      Am I an antisemite because I think Israel is off the hook currently? Some people think so. Does it make me a Nazi, or as you say a “nazi simp”? I find that idea laughable, but maybe those same people think so. Maybe you do too. Or maybe someone in power a year from now will think so. I have no desire to participate in the Texas Republican party, nor any Republican party, but 100% any such resolution is going to open the door to weaponize those definitions, and the topic at hand is a current-day example.

      And here’s another article to back up my perception of measures such as these:

      Republicans’ Dangerous New Bill Would Try to Muzzle All Criticism of Israel

      And by the way - the downvote button isn’t intended as a disagree button. If you think I’m wrong, show me how I am.

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        Expelled from a club isn’t getting banned. The Constitution requires a person be Born in the US and at least 35 Years old. Are 27 Year olds banned? Are Russians Banned? No, they are excluded from a group for not meeting the criteria to be eligible.

        There is no banning going on. You are simply desperate to pretend that the Republicans are correct to not exclude Fascists from running their party. They are not. Nazis should be excluded.

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          You are simply desperate to pretend that the Republicans are correct to not exclude Fascists from running their party. They are not. Nazis should be excluded.

          No Sir, I’m desperate to help you understand that if they want to exclude Fascists from running their party they should use language that only excludes Fascists from running their party, not broadly applied to whoever they don’t want at that time.

          You are so hung up on the fact that I used the word “ban” one time (as did the article) that it’s all you can reply to.

          As a side note, I see no evidence nationally that Republicans don’t want fascists running their party, and Texas Republicans can start with Greg Abbot if they’d like to convince me otherwise.

          Edit: I’ll include this bit again since you clearly didn’t read it the first time.

          Am I an antisemite because I think Israel is off the hook currently? Some people think so. Does it make me a Nazi, or as you say a “nazi simp”? I find that idea laughable, but maybe those same people think so. Maybe you do too. Or maybe someone in power a year from now will think so. I have no desire to participate in the Texas Republican party, nor any Republican party, but 100% any such resolution is going to open the door to weaponize those definitions, and the topic at hand is a current-day example.

          And here’s another article to back up my perception of measures such as these:

          Republicans’ Dangerous New Bill Would Try to Muzzle All Criticism of Israel

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            Tolerance of intolerance is no tolerance at all. If you let Fascists in you are a Fascist party regardless of your delusional intent.

            A simp, in the Political sense, is someone that “carries water” for an extreme PoV. Often a misguided “both sides” type. They are so hard fast in their moral superiority that they fail to see the real world outcomes that inevitably result.