• Neuromancer@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    7 months ago

    I like Sanders because he isn’t just another d/r. He speaks his mind, and I believe he believes in what he says. I would vote for him out of principle.

    That said, his ideas are idiotic for the most part, and he has no clue how the economy works.If elected the country would quickly become a wasteland if his ideas were implemented but I would feel decent voting for him at least.

    • Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      7 months ago

      Oh look, the taxes are theft guy (who will vote for Trump) is here to say how little someone else knows about economics.

      I’m sure all that wealth will start to trickle down any minute now though.

      • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        7 months ago

        Funny, I don’t remember ever saying taxes are theft by default. What I have said is the tax system should be fair.

        Bernie has suggested this, such as taxing wealth, which is unconstitutional. He didn’t propose an amendment; he just wanted to tax wealth. He didn’t even realize that it was against the Constitution. He also said it’s unfair that Elon didn’t pay more in income tax when he made a dollar that year. He couldn’t even be bothered to look up Elon’s income.

        He says things so his plebes will clap without realizing it isn’t an intelligent or viable solution.

        • Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          edit-2
          7 months ago

          What I have said is the tax system should be fair.

          By reducing the amount that the people who benefit most (by orders of magnitude) from our society pay into it. Yeah. That sure sounds fair to me.

          What an intelligent and viable solution!

              • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                7 months ago

                The rich already pay more than their fair taxes. If you have a cite to show otherwise, I would love to see it.

                https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/rich-pay-their-fair-share-of-taxes/

                As this chart shows, The top 1% pay 40% of all taxes but only bring in 20% of the income. That is paying their fair share.

                The top 5% pay 20% of the taxes but only bring in 15% of the income.

                So yes, I deserve a tax cut, and most likely, you deserve a tax increase.

                • sandman@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  7 months ago

                  The rich already pay more than their fair taxes.

                  Yeah. Don’t listen to this guy.

                • Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  7 months ago

                  Wait, I thought you never said that?

                  That paper ignores people’s capacity to pay.

                  Even the Bible recognizes that a poor widow’s mite is a bigger ask than a wealthy person’s contribution of a larger portion of their income. That was written two thousand years ago, but somehow conservatives still haven’t come to the same obvious conclusion.

                  Our society is specifically set up to funnel money to oligarchs, and then they cry about having to contribute to that system? Boo fucking hoo.

                  • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    0
                    ·
                    7 months ago

                    Why are you quoting the bible? The bible also says I shouldn’t eat shellfish. Leave your sky God out of the discussion.

                    That paper ignores people’s capacity to pay.

                    People need to be responsible for their finances. The answer isn’t to make other people pay your way in life. As California and New York learned, people will leave and their budgets are wrecked.

    • sandman@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      7 months ago

      and he has no clue how the economy works

      That’s the thing. He knows how the economy ‘works’, it’s just that it works for the ruling class and not for everyone else.

      Guess what? The only way to reduce the disparity in wealth is to reduce the disparity in wealth. This means those who have too much will get angry because they have less so others can have more.