• AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Kimi Karjalainen and his brother Marko poured their life savings into Bone Machine Brewing Co when it opened in Pocklington, East Yorkshire, in 2017 before moving to Hull, as part of the craft beer revolution that swept Britain.

    Post-Brexit trading arrangements with European Union countries meant that Bone Machine’s craft beers needed to be accompanied by expensive and time-consuming paperwork.

    Bone Machine is one of more than 100 small brewers that have been forced out of business in the past 18 months, hit by a combination of Brexit, the pandemic and the cost of living crisis and now threatened by changes to beer duty laws.

    So while people were getting worse off, the multinational brewers were going to pubs, to free houses, and saying ‘we’ll give you cheap kegs, but we want control of all your lines’.”

    Other issues affecting the industry have been the shortage of carbon dioxide following the early stages of the energy crisis, and Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine which raised the cost of barley and hops.

    Larger companies have been doing well, including Brewdog, the Camden Town Brewery and Beavertown, which the Grocer reported had seen supermarket sales rise by more than a quarter.


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  • Max_Power@feddit.de
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    Years after, what else is there to say? The citizens were duped and they voted for this.

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      Stupid people get bad results. I don’t feel sorry, especially because their departure was fueled by their dislike for us.

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        Do you feel sorry for the 48% of people who weren’t “stupid” and voted to remain, yet still have to deal with this bollocks?

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            I mean that’s hardly fair, given that in the past, constitutional changes weren’t done on the basis of an advisory referendum with a tiny majority, and we weren’t told prior that the outcome would result in Brexit.
            If you’re blaming the voters, you’re letting the Conservative party get away with it. It is decidedly their fault.

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              we weren’t told prior that the outcome would result in Brexit.

              Let’s assume for a moment that what you say is accurate. It’s just advisory. Not caring if the voters just give the government the “advice” to shoot the country in the foot also seems pretty dumb to me.

              Also, between the referendum and actual Brexit there were TWO general elections. In 2019 the conservatives were reelected, with a stunning participation of 67%. You guys HAD to have woken up by then.

              If you’re blaming the voters, you’re letting the Conservative party get away with it.

              No, I’m not. But if you live in a democracy, you share the responsibility for decisions that are made in your name. And the only way they are not made in your name is if you vote against them. You don’t get out of that by claiming “they lied” when those lies at the time were constantly debunked in basically all of the media if you just bothered to look.

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                Let’s assume for a moment that what you say is accurate

                Let’s not. Instead of assuming, we can agree that the referendum being advisory is a matter of fact. I can provide thousands of sources for this if you are unsure.

                between the referendum and actual Brexit there were TWO general elections.

                Two points here. Firstly, an election is not a single issue referendum and the Conservatives winning an election is therefore not equivalent to the voters agreeing on Brexit.
                Secondly, in both of these elections the majority of voters voted for anti-Brexit parties. So, if we were to take the elections as referenda, (which, again, we can’t) the results would show that the UK voted subsequently against Brexit. Twice.

                As for your last paragraph, the fact that “they lied” (not sure why this is in quote marks: they did) does matter. It’s not reasonable to expect that the whole populace will have the time, inclination, ability or education to be able to understand the full picture and determine which parts of what they’re being told are true and which are lies. This is partly why we elect and pay representatives. A lot of lies were told, some in completely novel ways and some in more traditional ways, but enough to at least confuse the average Joe. Why would you lay the blame at the door of people who made a decision based on the best information that was available to them when that information was bogus?

                those lies at the time were constantly debunked in basically all of the media if you just bothered to look.

                Outright incorrect here. The majority of the media was pro - brexit in the UK. Owned as it is by disaster capitalists and paid-up Tory supporters. At the very least, the message from the media as a whole was incoherent. I believe it’s fair to say that large parts of the mass media embarked on a targeted misinformation campaign for the very purpose of muddying the waters and convincing people to vote against their own interests.

                I’m not sure why you overlook all of this. Perhaps you just didn’t know. Perhaps you’re a Tory supporter. Perhaps you just like nice, neat black-and-white answers. But by doing so, you’re blaming a lot of innocent people and letting a lot of guilty ones off without scrutiny. You’re literally making it worse.

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      It was an incredibly stupid idea pushed by foreign propaganda and complete morons. So, it seems this is one example of what happens when people do something incredibly stupid.

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    but kimi kimi kimi, you set up a business in the UK… “heavily geared for export [to EU countries]” …. in 2017…?

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      There was no change in trade regulations until 2021. The UK government insisted all along that they would get “the best of both worlds” and “no friction”. While there was a reduction in demand from the EU side, acknowledged by most pre-established businesses, if you started in 2017 you wouldn’t have seen it.

      Kimi was a mug for believing lies from the UK government, or hoping/betting that things wouldn’t get as bad as they did. A softer, saner agreement achieving EEA-like status would have been fine for him, after all. But nope, we got our hard brexit…