• Mopswasser@feddit.de
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    The EU itself can and will break over this unless a long-term solution apt to keep social peace is found. All countries east of Germany, most prominently Poland and Hungary, will never take in African migrants. Simply won’t happen, they’d rather leave before being strong-armed into compliance. Leaving the EU is not even unthinkable for many Germans, anymore.

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      Hungary leaving would actually be a benefit to the EU since having a dictator inside the EU is more of a problem than Hungary provides as a benefit.

      Anyone who seriously considers leaving the EU just has to look at Britain to see what a disaster of an idea that turned out to be.

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        Talking to the English I know, their problems aren’t substantially different than ours (Germany). In any case, the UK being worse off is due to not being in the club. When there is no more club, a new institution shall emerge under a different premise.

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          their problems aren’t substantially different than ours (Germany)

          Except that we don’t have to wait for many hours to go across the border, we can order most products within a day, even if they aren’t shipped from our own country, our food doesn’t rot before it reaches its destination if we try to export it, our manufacturers aren’t closing down because their supply chain is disrupted,…

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          When there is no more club, a new institution shall emerge under a different premise.

          Churchill went for “the United States of Europe” in his Zurich speech.

          We must build a kind of United States of Europe

          I am now going to say something that will astonish you. The first step in the recreation of the European Family must be a partnership between France and Germany. In this way only can France recover the moral and cultural leadership of Europe. There can be no revival of Europe without a spiritually great France and a spiritually great Germany. The structure of the United States of Europe, if well and truly built, will be such as to make the material strength of a single state less important. Small nations will count as much as large ones and gain their honour by their contribution to the common cause. The ancient states and principalities of Germany, freely joined together for mutual convenience in a federal system, might take their individual places among the United States of Europe.

          But I must give you a warning. Time may be short. At present there is a breathing-space. The cannons have ceased firing. The fighting has stopped; but the dangers have not stopped. If we are to form the United States of Europe, or whatever name it may take, we must begin now.

          I must now sum up the propositions which are before you. Our constant aim must be to build and fortify the strength of the United Nations Organization. Under and within that world concept we must recreate the European Family in a regional structure called, it may be, the United States of Europe. And the first practical step would be to form a Council of Europe. If at first all the States of Europe are not willing or able to join the Union, we must nevertheless proceed to assemble and combine those who will and those who can. The salvation of the common people of every race and of every land from war or servitude must be established on solid foundations and must be guarded by the readiness of all men and women to die rather than submit to tyranny. In all this urgent work, France and Germany must take the lead together. Great Britain, the British Commonwealth of Nations, mighty America and I trust Soviet Russia-for then indeed all would be well-must be the friends and sponsors of the new Europe and must champion its right to live and shine. Therefore I say to you: let Europe arise!

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      Yeah sure. The Poland that is receiving 10 billion € more from the Eu than it pays every year is going to leave over that. And then all the polish people working in other EU countries and all the factory workers, whose livelihood depends on exporting goods to other EU countries clapped.

      You are delusional.

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        Of course Poland won’t leave free money on the table. But they will only stay as long as they can guarantee to stay culturally homogenous. On the contrary, it’s delusional to believe that a substantial number of Polish people would ever be fine with Warsaw having a demographic like Berlin or Hamburg.

        They will fight off black folks and Muslims tooth and nail.

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      All countries east of Germany, most prominently Poland and Hungary, will never take in African migrants.

      I mean, I don’t think that most people migrating from Africa are trying to go to Poland and Hungary. They’re migrating for wages, and they’re gonna go wherever in the EU the wages are highest, which isn’t Poland or Hungary.