Bernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.works to Europe@feddit.deEnglish · 2 years agoAfter Brexit, Britain and Europe embrace ever-closer unionwww.politico.euexternal-linkmessage-square34fedilinkarrow-up134arrow-down110cross-posted to: world@lemmy.world
arrow-up124arrow-down1external-linkAfter Brexit, Britain and Europe embrace ever-closer unionwww.politico.euBernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.works to Europe@feddit.deEnglish · 2 years agomessage-square34fedilinkcross-posted to: world@lemmy.world
minus-squareBernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.worksOPlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·2 years agoAnd his problems were that he and his cohort were too far left to get elected. Same as Kinnock. Nothing more than centre left is electable, evidenced by the election results of the last hundred years.
minus-squareMchugho@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·2 years agoSure if you believe the Tory tabloid attack lines. Most of his domestic policy was mild social democratic thought. He got destroyed by the media and not for policy reasons.
minus-squareBernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.worksOPlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·2 years agoNot being destroyed by the media is the job of political leaders…
minus-squareMchugho@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·2 years agoWell yeah, that’s why I don’t think he was very good. But to say that a more media savvy yet actually principled leader would never work is just wrong, it’s never been tried.
minus-squareBernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.worksOPlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·2 years agoGordon Brown was more principled than Blair, but lacked the media savviness. Remember the ‘bigot’ open mic gaff 💀
minus-squareMchugho@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·2 years agoI just want someone in the boring Starmer mold but who is trying to inject a bit more hope into the normal people of this country. Maybe that is too much to ask for but I don’t think our demographics are fixed, a lot can and will change.
minus-squareBernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.worksOPlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·2 years agoSame. I’m just hoping it’s just electioneering
And his problems were that he and his cohort were too far left to get elected.
Same as Kinnock.
Nothing more than centre left is electable, evidenced by the election results of the last hundred years.
Sure if you believe the Tory tabloid attack lines. Most of his domestic policy was mild social democratic thought.
He got destroyed by the media and not for policy reasons.
Not being destroyed by the media is the job of political leaders…
Well yeah, that’s why I don’t think he was very good.
But to say that a more media savvy yet actually principled leader would never work is just wrong, it’s never been tried.
Gordon Brown was more principled than Blair, but lacked the media savviness. Remember the ‘bigot’ open mic gaff 💀
I just want someone in the boring Starmer mold but who is trying to inject a bit more hope into the normal people of this country. Maybe that is too much to ask for but I don’t think our demographics are fixed, a lot can and will change.
Same. I’m just hoping it’s just electioneering