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Cake day: August 2nd, 2023

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  • fair point. I don’t disagree with the fedi not being the place for it either but, I do also want to note it’s becoming harder to find a place to have any meaningful dialogue about most things these days outside of a curated echo chamber. we used to have passioned debates within academia, but that’s become far too risky with the current climate and the ever evolving vocabulary of what’s truly acceptable and what has unintended meanings. social media has become a nightmare, and most of the rest of the mainstream Internet isn’t interested in having a meaningful discussion, just people posting selfies and trying to get views for ad money. reddit has become super commercialized and rejects anything that would scare away advertisers as well. id think some lemmy instance would be one of the last places a meaningful dialogue could occur, but of course nobody wants their platform to degenerate into a soapbox for hate speech.

    Well, perhaps my comment was just me coming to terms with the sad fact that this is just the new reality where misinformation and deepfake videos have free reign to produce this layer of scum in these degenerate free speech echo chambers that we just have to shield ourself from like a zombie attack and hope nobody in our local area we have to deal with on a daily basis gets sucked into it and past a point of no return. you think the days of fox news was bad back in the Obama years when we could publicly mock and call them out on their bullshit? just wait about a decade from now and see what cults bubble up from these partitioned platforms. that sounds incredibly dystopian to me.

    sorry that’s a long rant, but I really feel this is where we are headed.



  • I did edit it. I certainly didn’t edit to make it larger. I agree that’s annoying and stupid. I added more context to it. If you saw it before you will see ther post is slightly longer and has an extra analogy at the end. There’s no argument, just an accusation based on an incorrect assumption. I hit a markdown button on my app which added styling to the last line, effecting the entire last paragraph.


  • I didn’t do that on purpose, I assure you. Why are you assuming that in the first place? This is part of the issue, of giving people the benefit of the doubt before engaging with conversation. Perhaps it’s the lemmy app I’m using. I’m trying to edit it down now.

    EDIT: I hit a button on the markup tab. A bunch of underscores at the end of the post did it. Entirely unintentional and now removed. Problem solved.


  • I understand if you disagree with what I said but please don’t accuse me of accepting things that I don’t. I think abhorrent and repulsive commentary is, to quote myself here, abhorrent and repulsive. Quick question though friend, possibly unrelated, but please answer. do you see a difference in someone saying

    I can understand why this side would be angry enough to do some violent things, if you look at the history associated with the people they were violent against

    and

    this is a public call to violence, lets burn those people on the other side because after the history they deserve it and there will be more blood shed from us which I support

    this question is entirely hypothetical, please don’t read into it any more than what’s there. How similar are these to you? Entirely the same meaning? Different but fundamentally the same? Related to the same mentality but different? Or entirely different points of view?


  • Doubt this will even reach anyone but if it does take this however you will and downvote me into the cellar, but I think the popularly interpreted definition of hate speech is way too broad. Commentary can be abhorrent and repulsive without being defined as hate speech. I find it far more important and rewarding to try to engage with people in their extreme stances, and try to find common logical ground to allow their own brains to start moving them away from their loathsome point of views. It may not always work, but it’s the only way we actually bring people back into the land of reasonable once again. Conversations with reformed people from QANON and COVID deniers and flat earthers and January 6 MAGA marchers that came back to the sane side, revealed they were engaged by family that didnt drive them deeper into the divide and into the arms of the cult, and approached them from a place of love and concern.

    A great quote from comedian Doug Stanhope: If you never leave your house, the current climate is whatever you set your fucking thermostat to last. It’s why so many younger people today are offended by things that weren’t intended to be offensive by its author in the first place. It’s hard to have empathy for another point of view that’s just curious or a bit of a hot take if you never hear anything outside of your point of view over your whole lifetime, and assume everyone is familiar inside your echo chamber and know what frequencies shatter the glass. A conversation would have perhaps worked out the misunderstanding, perhaps even lead to an apology and an ally. Ignoring things you disagree with just leads to much bigger problems down the road because we all live on the same earth. You ignore them until they elect Boris or Trump and then it’s all our problem.














  • what I mean is that, connections that are private and secure in the current day, may still be logged since everyone is so data hungry to train their AI, because even though it’s not currently readable, those past messages will be tomorrow, even if the encryption of the day changes. it only protects the things under the current standard. that’s sort of unsettling to me that nothing is truly guaranteed safe for even 5 years, despite how deep the key space goes.