Not with that attitude

This ignores that 4chan is widely known as the cesspool of the internet and attracts those types. It’s like going on Hexbear and being surprised at the communists. People gather where their banners are. Shit attracts shit. This reduction is apt.

Sure it kind of does some good ish things sometimes, but more often than not, it’s just an internet mob internet mobbing. That’s essentially all it is: chaos waves constantly crashing back in on itself. Any good that comes from it is incidental at best.

Also, defending 4chan on the wider Internet is a little odd, 4chan itself revels in its shit reputation…

I’m interested in where the limits to expectations lie here. I’m not trying to be a jerk when I say this next part but I do worry I may come off that way but I’m trying to figure out the boundaries of what a “reasonable” expectation is so I can make tasks like this easier for my own team (completely unrelated to this project but it’s essentially the same problem).

Is it not reasonable to expect people to type into a search engine something like “GitHub help” and then poke around in the links that come up?

… Well I’ll be damned, I tried my own method before commenting, and the first link that comes up is a red herring, how obnoxious. I was hoping it’d be a link to the docs, not GitHub support. I guess I just answered my own question: no that is not reasonable.

As a technical user, I am still at a loss for how to help a non-technical user in an algorithmic way that will work for most non-technical users x.x guess I’ll be thinking about this problem some more lol

(I guess I’m rambling but I’m gonna post this anyways in case anyone wants to chatter about it with me)

Ngl, pretty rude to just go poking around in stranger’s holes like that without warning lmao (/s/jk/etc)

Ah I get that, like the frustration of a sociological paper pointing out a societal issue but offering no steps on how to solve it due to fixes being out of scope (utterly infuriating lol).

I still think the criticism is valid, but I do think I agree in that the criticism could be more constructive… But I still think laying the foundation of the argument, so to speak, is still constructive even though it may not go as far as one may need for it to cross the threshold back into polite…

I am still convinced this is a knee jerk feeling issue more than anything truly being amiss, but I have been wrong before. What do you think?

I agree it probably is a definitions thing, I’m very pedantic sometimes and it feels like my definition of constructive is much more optimistic/wider/encompassing than yours. That doesn’t mean that my definition is right or that your position is wrong though, that’s just what I think is going on here.

The first step to correction is understanding there is a problem in the first place. This is quite constructive, it may just not feel like it is because it’s framed combatively.

You’re doing it wrong is the phrase that lets teachers teach at one of the most basic levels.

The public is essentially a self teaching teacher, so this is just the process of public correction happening. It may look/feel like public shaming, and it may be if they’re going too far, but that is the mechanism that I think is playing out here.

Does that framing make it any more palatable to you or does it still seem unnecessarily disrespectful?

Interesting, I personally wouldn’t actually accuse the UN of being tankie… Maybe capitalist but not tankie… I think if someone makes a convincing argument about the price of oil, it might result in the US or the UN (most likely UN I would wager though) stepping in…

I don’t think the UN will actually do anything though, this is more just me harvesting some hope/cope

Hah! I see the logic, but I think that happened only because the big powers backing each Korea couldn’t push the proxy war to overwhelm each other either way… But then again, I could be wrong, and that could be a viable option here, I really don’t know… The less buried mines on earth, the better, but when you’ve got 1/4 of the population of your enemy, you don’t exactly have the privilege of fighting traditionally either…

Fascinating, that hadn’t crossed my mind at all. The actual world police could do something probably good (stabilizing at the very least) for the situation.

But that said, I don’t think I would bank on the UN for this one… It seems like Guyana would need continual military presence to dissuade Venezuela because it appears that Venezuela is doing this because Guyana was too fiscally successful over the pandemic. But I mean if the UN does long term guarding like that, then it might be a viable option…

With who’s army fighting though? Guyana seems a bit too small to properly be able to defend itself from Venezuela… Unless Brazil goes full on South America police on the situation (and apparently, they might?), I don’t see how this will end in anything other than Venezuela steam rolling Guyana…

The unfortunate answer to your question is very likely only because there is money to be made…

Ahhhh sheesh you definitely got me there… In that case I’d like to revise my stance to be a bit safer and reduce it to just gluing the feathers to them using Elmer’s or something safer than skin peeling tar :/

Something scary and mob actiony but that doesn’t result in inevitable death.

Oh I see! That’s far fancier than anything I’ve really ever even imagined lol i thought Louis Vuitton was designer but that would mean the designers name is just the brand… Which is interesting to see! Thank you for enlightening me!

For sure, they’re just the first thing that comes to mind when I see a generic looking boot lol thanks for the tips! Definitely checking out rose anvil tonight!

Mermen, aka Taxfish

I mistook the boots as docs and the shoes are Nike… I’m layman level though, and there does appear to be a difference between designer and branding that I don’t fully understand… Though it appears to be even though you may recognize the brand, the brand itself may not be designer (is that about right? You obviously know more than me, so feel free to tell me I’m wrong!)

And they have the public so disenfranchised that the public’ll just go “fucking politicians” and move on with their lives instead of grabbing the torch and pitchforks and showing these assholes what accountability for politicians used to look like in the old days. Perhaps show them why we don’t play by those rules anymore and why they shouldn’t inspire the public to continue playing by those old rules.

Note: I am euphemistically edging towards tar and feathering more so than anything else. Anything nonlethal but severe in nature and consequence, that sort of thing.

Too bad their doctrine is to take everyone else with them, instead of being as courteous as the cults that self annihilate and leave the non-followers alone.

Seriously, their own book says man was charged with taking care of the world. By their own doctrine, God is the one that will end it, not man. But they’re all either power hungry greed lords trying to take Gods destiny into their own hands or idiots who don’t know what’s in the book they thump so hard.

Oh i get what you’re pointing out now, yeah, it is kinda weird to just assume all leftists are pro-lgbtqia.

It seems like every combination of person, no matter how seemingly contradictory vibes-wise, exists in some form or another lol

Like it’s weird, I am doing the same lumping pattern that I know I shouldn’t be in the same breath as acknowledging that it’s weird to do that pattern lol cognitive dissonance is weird when you notice it…

And we should loudly continue to compare them to those with those histories due to similarity of behavior until they change their behavior so that they will never have the chance to quietly add a similar history to their own books.

If we don’t want a “gulags of Florida” chapter written in history, it’s appropriate to call the behavior that would lead to one out