Ive provided one in another comment.
Ive provided one in another comment.
I don’t understand that interpretation. The original comment was:
Israel could have taken out entire hospital staffs with this “technique”. Hope they remain human and don’t.
To which macarthur_park replied:
Seems unlikely considering only pagers belonging to Hezbollah had the explosives added.
They do not think it’s likely that hospital staff, Hezbollah affiliated or not, could be in danger. I challenged that. I don’t think they were aware that Hezbollah had a civilian wing at all, and that many public sector workers are technically “Hezbollah-affiliated” due to the nature of the political situation there.
No one has suggested that in this comment chain.
Good, then we should all agree that this was a despicable attack on Israel’s part and this whole conversation is pointless.
They said “Seems unlikely [that pagers would be in the hands of doctors] considering only pagers belonging to Hezbollah had the explosives added.”
That article directly refutes that. It is heavily implied when you’re all saying “Hezbollah” you’re talking about militants. Again, it is unreasonable to suggest that workers, including doctors and nurses, that are part of the civilian arm of Hezbollah’s de facto government are fair targets in either morality or international law.
“Would be as in “would be the ones having peace talks if Hezbollah had ‘chosen peace’”
Do you understand the difference in meaning between “were” and “would be”?
There can’t be peace talks if you kill and maim the people you would be doing the peace talks with.
This is a stupid argument because Israel is the clear aggressor in this conflict.
Hezbollah, the de facto government of large parts of Lebanon, ordered the pagers and widely distributed them. Many of them went to civilians for legitimate purposes. It’s unreasonable to suggest that these are fair targets because they were briefly in Hezbollah’s control at some point along the chain.
There is no chance Mossad wasn’t aware that these pagers were distributed to civilians.
There isn’t one, because this is objectively not true.
Politicians and diplomats would be the ones involved in peace talks.
Booby trapping objects associated with daily civilian use is a war crime
These pagers were distributed to doctors and nurses, so I would also argue that they were booby trapping medical supplies, which are protected.
This attack didn’t just target militants, it also hit politicians who would be working diplomatically towards peace. Israel has an extremely broad definition of “terrorist”
If anyone else did this, it would be universally recognized as a heinous act of state-sponsered terrorism.
Revoke his security clearance you cowards.
I don’t think this would be getting around the clock coverage if it wasn’t for the first attempt
It’s so funny that the Republicans are suddenly very concerned about stochastic terrorism. Do they really want to open that can of worms?
Yeah how are those ceasefire talks going?
There are a ton of things the US could do than just providing unconditional military aid to be used on Palestinian civilians that doesn’t result in Iran invading. At the absolute bare minimum enforce their own “red lines.” Precision strike weapons are pointless if they’re just used for indescriminate bombing.
You’re talking down to me as if you know the objective facts, but there are in fact things the US could do to stop this that they are actively choosing not to do. There are more conditions on weapons going to Ukraine than to Israel. It’s disgusting and apologists for it are disgusting.
I don’t think those people have put much thought into how much thought into the logistics on how that would happen, and that number would drop significantly if they did. This is what the Democrats should be messaging.
Americans are pretty ideologically incoherent anyway. I’m pretty sure a majority supports granting amnesty to some or all illegal immigrants.