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  • Which is stale 90s thinking.

    You might be able to convince Patriot Act cheerleaders with an image to whitewash to make a public statement, but you’re not going to convince any voter from the far right echo chamber to vote for any candidate from what they’ve been told is the party of pure evil their entire life.

    The only people who haven’t decided whether or not to vote for the Mango Mussolini are accelerationist idiots who can’t be reached, people who won’t be voting, and combinations of both.

    To the LEFT of the Dem leadership, on the other hand, is by far the largest group of politically disenfranchised but persuadable voters.

    They’re trying to decide if Harris is too right wing to be worth overcoming the many obstacles to voting inherent to a system in the control of one party that despises them and another that takes them for granted.




  • obtaining proof of citizenship should be free and simple to obtain from every municipality, state and federal office

    If it was, Republicans would just find another way to suppress the vote. This isn’t about citizenship or the integrity of the electoral process. It’s about the GOP knowing that the fewer people vote, the better for their fascist and therefore unpopular party.

    whether it’s necessary to have proof of citizenship in order to able to vote. of course you should. everyone should.

    That’s already in place, though. When voting, you have to supply your name, address and voter registration.

    If no citizen with that name is registered to that address, you don’t get to vote.

    It’s a pernicious lie that people in any significant number is able or even attempting to vote without indirectly proving their citizenship and even requiring “free and simple” (which it probably won’t be to some people anyway) direct proof will suppress the vote whether that’s your attention or not.

    we spend so much political bandwidth on a loser of an issue, year in, year out, for decades

    Because currently there’s no consequences for Republican politicians and their media echo chamber willfully misleading the people with their lies. In fact, the corrupt system encourages it.

    Ceding ground to their demagoguery doesn’t make it go away. They’ll just have that more power to suppress the vote in additional ways.

    something we should be pushing for too.

    Nope. See above.

    the poll tax argument no longer holds weight

    It VERY much does. Any unnecessary obstacle to voting is undemocratic in the same way as a poll tax is and requiring direct proof of something you’re already indirectly proven is unnecessary.

    no matter how much you whine about the smallest percentage of the smallest percentage of people who find themselves disenfranchised by the requirement

    You VASTLY underestimate the number of people for whom voting is already unnecessarily difficult and who will be at a greater risk of not being able to justify the cost of voting the more obstacles are thrown in their way.

    Especially when you consider that in person voter fraud is so rare as to be statistically nonexistent and is never non eligible people trying to vote.

    That you display your ignorance in a supremely condescending way doesn’t help either.

    the amount of support republicans get from this, as in issue that makes logical sense, doesn’t add up.

    It does when you consider how effective lying their ass off is in the current system.

    They aren’t right about any of this. They just have the money and media echo chamber to get their point repeated so much that impressionable people such as yourself are fooled into thinking that they are.







  • Please read the law and stop embarrassing yourself.

    I could say the same to you, but your reading comprehension and willingness to embarrass yourself to excuse Apartheid and genocide seem to be inversely proportional.

    I’ll not be engaging further as you are clearly arguing in bad faith, incapable of understanding any information that doesn’t conform with the Hasbara gaslighting you spread like an infection, or both.

    Have the day you deserve.



  • I’m including it because you seem to utterly unaware of international law.

    Is it opposite day already? Or just the Zionist Day of Projection, which is every day that ends in a y?

    Israel has attacked military objectives in safe zones

    A zone is by definition not safe if it contains a military objective. That’s so obvious that it’s frankly embarrassing for both of us that I have to point it out to you.

    That is legal under international law

    Would be if it wasn’t horseshit. The IDF claims phantom militants everywhere they bomb. In the vast majority of cases, there’s no legitimate military target.

    Hamas putting their weapons depots and operating bases in areas protected under international humanitarian law

    According to the IDF, an organization synonymous with concocting falsehoods to excuse deliberate targeting of civilians.

    is a war crime

    Even if they WEREN’T lying about there being Hamas bases there, bombing a hospital or a school or a refugee camp would STILL be a war crime.

    Nobody’s forcing Israel to kill civilians. Israel is TARGETING civilians, with the “bases” made up afterwards and never proven to exist in the vast majority of cases.

    Attacking these is not a war crime.

    Yes, it most certainly is. Forgetting for a second that there’s hardly ever any hostiles there, bombing civilians is a war crime.

    Imagine for a second that, unbeknownst to you, the guy who lives in the apartment below yours is a terrorist. Would that make it acceptable for your government to reduce the entire block to rubble, killing you and every other civilian in the process?

    I say no, and so does international law.



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    They are not citizens

    They by definition CAN’T be because Palestine doesn’t have any citizens. Because it’s occupied territory denied nationhood by its occupiers, Israel.

    Do you think a Palestinian state in the West Bank would accept Jewish settlers as citizens?

    Jewish people in general? Yes. Jewish (or Christian, or Muslim etc) SETTLERS stealing their land on behalf of an occupying force, though? That’s another kettle of ballgames entirely.

    “Settling” land already owned by someone else is colonialism and theft, not peaceful coexistence.




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    I hope you’re also against Palestinian nationalism then

    That’s not comparable and you know it. Nationalism without a nation is an ambition. Ethno-nationalism while in control of a nation containing other peoples is oppression and, in extreme cases like the South Africa of the past and present day Israel, Apartheid.

    But to answer the question you thought you asked: yes, I am against the violently theocratic government philosophy of Hamas.

    Also compare the number of Arabs with Israeli citizenship to the number of Jews with PA citizenship.

    Arab doesn’t equal Palestinian and Palestinian doesn’t equal Arab. To conflate the two is bigotry and ignorance.