Your defence of your fascist alignment is to concede it’s always ended terribly, then point to an anarcho-capitalist example where the goal is to collapse the government because Milei hasn’t finished the job after checks watch less than a year?

I get that he’s done a fairly commendable job with the economic tailspin so-far, but I’m not sure I see the relevance.

As an example, the IRS returns $6 for every dollar spent on it, and absolutely all available evidence shows that if you remove all the guardrails, things get far worse almost immediately.

Can you point to an example of fascism working? Every example I’ve seen ended with massive decline in quality of life, rampant waste, and both economic and government collapse - usually with a dead leader through suicide or execution, generally with their corpse being dragged through the streets by an understandably furious populace. It’ll all work out this time, though… right?

Fascism and idiots - I couldn’t name a more iconic duo - though I do agree with you point… Trump is exceptionally stupid, and has surrounded himself with gibbering idiots like Musk and RFK.

…that said, when Trump’s heart inevitably explodes, Vance will almost certainly have competent (evil) advisors, and they’ll get (horrible) shit done.

The Hitler lasted from July 1932, and Hitler killed himself in April 1945 - 13 years.

Mussolini lasted from 1922 to his execution in 1945 - 23 years.

Stalin lasted 1924-1953 - 29 years.

Fascism inevitably implodes and crates untold suffering along the way, but you might have longer than you think.

Yeah - it’s the FDA and CDC that are the true money pits in the US government… Let’s eliminate the IRS and EPA while we’re at it - really smash those guardrails and let the altruistic market fix it - that always works…

Ohhh look - we’re cutting taxes for those that need it least again - but that’s responsible spending - it’s all been accumulating for over half a century, so it’s got to start trickling down any day now, guys.

If you can avoid the dark ages, you should probably consider that a win right now…

So we should deport Israelis because Israel backed Hamas’ displacement of the secular moderates with predictable results?

Don’t pretend your hatred is principled.

I think it’s pretty straightforwardly reasonable to say that we should above all else, remove their ability to continue to do harm. There’s going to be a range of views on exactly what that should look like - mostly based on your view of how punitive we should be. Options would include confinement, exile, medication, lobotomy, and execution.

Personally, I think ending someone through death, lobotomy, and the like is unnecessarily barbaric. Confinement in one form or another seems like the most reasonable option, and I think consentual alternatives are debatable.

Had a friend that took the conspiracist road to Nazism, and this isn’t an exaggeration - the dictionary is a Jewish plot, so is any empirical evidence, the existence of qualified experts, observable phenomena…

The small mercy is that the idiots and monsters that voted for Trump and the dipshits that couldn’t be bothered to vote to stave off fascism will drown in the river of shit alongside the well-meaning folk that did their best (or anything at all) to stop this.

Christ - because it’s not as though the media contributes massively to voter suppression.

Journalistic malpractice is one of the main causes - if not the main cause of this result.

A war of aggression started in October by Hamas.

Yeah - history started 13 months ago, and the genocide being committed in Palestine is actually a Hamas war of aggression. Is it because it’s all Israeli territory and therefore that genocide is justified?

Once again LBGTQ+ individuals would be killed, jailed and persecuted even without the current conflict with Israel.

You don’t get to weaponise the LGBTQ+ community, who Israel is exterminating at a far quicker rate than everyone else in the region combined to justify the extermination of those LGBTQ+ people, their families, and everyone they care about.

Once again Lebanon is an active war zone.

Yes - Israel invaded them.

Simple Israel is fighting a war that was thrust on it by Hamas in October. Nazis fought a war of aggression. The fact that you can’t tell the difference is sad.

That’s probably less defensible than the argument that the Jews were sabotaging the German economy in defence of the Holocaust - it’s definitely less defensible than arguing Hitler had no choice but to start WWII because of the economic carve-up following WWI.

Congratulations - you’re just as genocidal as the Nazis and use even stupider arguments than they do. The tankies can go fuck themselves - but my prescription for you would defy TOS, Rudolph Jitler.

Yawn

History started 13 months ago (but only as it relates to the genocide Israel is committing) - but you’d better not pay attention to who has been killing the most LGBTQ+ people (and straight people, civilians, children…) in the region.

I’m the one brushing aside reality, eh?

You don’t ever look at the fact that you’re defending a genocide and question yourself? That you’re weaponising the Palestinian LGBTQ+ population whose extermination you’re actively supporting exterminating to justify that extermination?

…nah - better to just say I’m off my meds.

You wouldn’t have to tie yourself in bizarre knots to defend a genocide if you simply decided not to defend the indefensible. You don’t have a moral framework, you don’t have a logical framework - you have “Israel gud, so genocide gud.”

Hooray for courts stacked with sycophants and partisans, and liberals enabling fascism because meaningfully opposing it would be uncivil.

There’s slim hope that Trump losing the election along with his viability as president or leader of the GOP would see his protections make way for consequences, but even that seems unlikely.

Your prescription seems to assume that either:

1. Everyone can be rehabilitated, which no society has ever achieved.

2. That it’s preferable to push a well understood risk to people’s lives back into the community than it is to keep that risk in the care of the state where they can’t kill more people.

…but you strike me as too sensible to prescribe that kind of thing, so what have I missed?

Hold it in Palestine, get murdered by Israel.

Hold it in Iran, get murdered by Israel.

Hold it in Lebanon, get murdered by Israel.

…but Israel is less homophobic than them, so Israel’s genocide is good, actually.

Are you able to explain why the Nazis were bad in a way that doesn’t implicate Israel?

It’s not complex - bigotry is bad, genocide, as the most extreme possible outcome of bigotry, is far worse. Some bigotry in a population isn’t justification for a genocide - that would be an apocalyptic prescription if applied consistently.

You do understand why people would look at your prescriptions and think that you’re either a world-ending lunatic or genocidal piece of shit, right? Why would we be wrong?

I’ll ask again because you dodged the important question - Does Palestine have the right to defend itself like Israel and what would that look like to you?

Which specific 2 state solutions are you referring to? I assume it’s the ~1994 deal that collapsed because Israel couldn’t stop their terrorism and assassinations throughout the negotiations, and the Partition Plan that violated the UN charter with respect to national self-determination and carved out the majority of the territory to the minority Israeli population.

To defend the genocide of Palestine as a necessary lesson reveals a let’s say… interesting moral framework - particularly as Israel escalates aggression against Iran and Lebanon. Putting aside the obvious genocidal intent, rhetoric, and action, how does an exterminated population learn any lesson?

Your argument is the best possible case one could make for the genocide of Israel - they are the regional threat and aggressor - they are the ones that (by your sickening logic) need to be exterminated to teach them a lesspn. The outcomes of the actions you’re defending have civilisation-ending consequences one way or another, and zero benefit - why do you hold these positions?

My bigotry and genocide is fine because other countries have bigotry, actually.

What do you think you stand for, exactly?

Cultural Bolshevism > cultural Marxism / post-modern neo-Marxists.

Immigrants polluting the blood of the nation > immigrants polluting the blood of the nation.

unified Reich > unified Reich.

Hooray for populists that aggressively fight against anything resembling worker solidarity, planning to end democracy, convincing people that it’s for their own good, and bumbling their way into Nazism.

Not actively, gleefully making things worse. Biden is doing this.

Working to stack the Supreme Court, and triggering a constitutional crisis in the process because the Republican Senate will refuse confirmation, and the Supreme Court that was stacked with self-contradictory GOP bullshit will agree with them would be the interesting move that won’t happen because the Democrats are cowards and institutionalists rather than fascist monsters.