Screaming at your allies *over brands of genociders isn’t a good way to avoid wedges.

Which they were doing before.

It’s bad for you and me now. It’s been bad for the rest since before now. Enjoy your wedge.

I’m not going to hazard a guess on your background and relations but I can say of the 50+ Gazans I follow on the ground… some are dead now. But their friends who survived them and the rest who are miraculously still alive said they didn’t see much of a difference between Biden saying they’re rapists and Trump saying they’re rapists. That’s the Pals I follow. Then there’s the peace orgs I follow - JVP, CAIR, PSL… none of them had much to say about Biden or Trump. They were all about to marked as terrorist orgs under the last administration, anyway. Then there’s the black and brown people I interact with online and in my friend groups. A lot of us agree, myself included, that non-voters shouldn’t have been non-voters and voted Harris but even then most of them tell me it doesn’t really matter to them because this is how it’s always been for them. Who am I to criticize? I’m not in their shoes. At the end of the day yelling at people who didn’t want 800,000 people dead is a wedge argument. The dictatorship is here now. Do we want to yell at white women for wearing bracelets telling black people “they’re safe”? Or can we finally just work together. The reason we’re here is because we truly enjoy these sour lemon flavored wedges.

Was it though? Was it preventable? I think survival and preservation of life is the goal right? Would you agree?

Past numbers:

• 800,000 Palestinians are dead under the last administration.
• And one of my favorite stats - “According to estimates, capitalist institutions have caused approximately 158 million deaths through wars alone since the Russian Revolution.” (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10455752.2021.1875603).
• “The rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans stands at 6.2 fatal shootings per million of the population per year between 2015 and October 2024.” (https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/).
• “From 2015 to October 2024, approximately 6,600 people were killed by police shootings. This includes 6,303 men and 294 women” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States.

For some folx… and from their points of view, it wasn’t good, it hasn’t been good, and it won’t be good. Now it’s just shitty for everyone. I don’t agree with it but if I’m going to shit on anyone for what was inevitable, anyway, it isn’t going to be people who genuinely wanted 800,000 people to not be dead. The third party voters didn’t tip the scale. The non voters did an asshole thing. The MAGA voters are a whole other discussion. But the wedge thing, it’s tired. We should hop over the wedge.

My only point, respectfully, is 800,000 people are dead. What was anyone in leadership doing to stop it and to prevent it from happening any further?

Let me be clear, I was for swing states voting for Harris because I am fully aware of how dictatorships roll but voting for Harris wasn’t going to stop the dictatorship from rolling. It was on the way and going to roll. If Harris had won, it would’ve been just a little bit more down the road. But the cop cities were and are being built. The police indemnity is already in place and growing. The Pal protestors and the orgs for peace were already being legislated as terrorist orgs. The billionaires and democratic mayors were already sicking police and fascist mobs on the protestors. Bombs were still being sent to kill more than 800,000 people. Brown people were still being gunned down and mistreated by the state sanctioned slave catchers in the US. Muslim Americans were still seeing a crazy uptick in violence against their communities and the Democrats were barring them from speaking at the DNC.

In some people’s purview, shit wasn’t good under the Dems. Maybe better for me? For you? Sure. I’ve had many black internetizens say “Oh? It’s finally bad for YOU. It’s been bad for us the entire time.” Even my Mexican co-workers here in Los Angeles shrug their shoulders and say it’s not new for them.

But you’re right. It’s not good. I don’t condone it. Most of us don’t. But I also don’t condone feeding into this wedge argument pitting working class against working class when all anyone wanted was for 800,000 people to not be dead, for politicians to hold slave catchers accountable, and for money and jobs to come back to this place.

Everyone’s angry. 800,000 people are dead. Everyone is mad. Why are 800,000 people dead? Probably isn’t the person’s fault who wanted 800,000 people to not die.

Yea - I must be illiterate for not wanting to emphasize a working class wedge.

I must be illiterate for listening to:

• Seraj (Gazan Journalist)
• Wally Rashid (Palestinian Journalist)
• PSL (Palestinian Activism Group)
• CAIR (Muslim Legal Foundation)
• Jewish Voices for Peace (Obvious is obvious)
• Shireen Falasteen (Palestinian Activist)
• Bisan (Gazan Journalist)
• Dr. Huassam (may he me saved)
• Hossam Shbat (Gaza Journalist)
• Mostafa Jaser (Gaza Journalist)
• and a number of other Palestinian activists and journalists.

Yea. Illiterate. That must be it.

Do you have a list of activists and journalists you read and follow on a daily basis? Care to share?

800,000 dead people gave* you a lot to gloat about, didn’t it.

You do know that Palestinian journalists on the ground there said they knew it didn’t matter who was in office. 800,000 dead Palestinians under Biden and Harris. But continue on.

You might want to ask the Palestinian journalists who told American voters that it doesn’t matter who is in office. Start with Bisan. I’d love to see you bark up a Palestinian’s tree who lost easily 150 people in* their family. It’s crazy to see people gloat over 800,000 dead people like this.

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bUt hE’s NoT a RuSSiAn aSsEt /s

Sigh. I feel this but her “what keeps me up at night” really rubs me the wrong way as someone who has been trying to get into science and health research but am not from a wealthy or even moderate income background. I am all but barred out. She wants bright scientists then open the gates to them. So far it’s a bunch of walls and tape unless you live in your parent’s house and have no bills.

Shocked the butt polyp spez allows this and hasn’t rigged it

I guess it’s an issue in the US as well. Never thought about it.

I’d like one gold order, please.

The most corporate shit I’m sure they’ve read in a while.

Has Russia been killing families? I didn’t think they would sink that low like Israel.

I am playing and forever willbe playing Hello Kitty Dream Village. It’s a shitty gacha game but I love it. I alos play Torn but I really don’t like it. I’m literally just signing in and collecting points. I don’t like that it’s centered around violence and drugs. No, I’m not mormon. I do belong to the Church of Mr. Rogers. ;P