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  • But… Blaming people who are being fucked over by forces generally outside their control is not really going to help their or our situation.

    The whole premise of the comment is that it’s not outside of their control, they just chose not to be responsible for the agreements they make. If you have any better suggestions than blaming those responsible for the situation I’m willing to listen and maybe even change my mind.

    Expecting or demanding “people” to just change is also not realistic. Even if they wanted to, time, effort, energy, knowledge, skills, and attention are all finite.

    Is it more unrealistic than “we” deciding to change and find a better path forward than surrendering our digital lives to strangers? I’m able to self-host my own push server. I wasn’t born with that knowledge. I had to invest time, effort and energy to gain the knowledge and skills. If I can, so can others. I am not an extraordinary smart person.

    Still, long before one starts to self-host entire platforms like NTFY or Nextcloud Push, there’s a ton of free to use services ran by idealists rather than capitalists. Or payed options with good terms. There’s so much between just not caring and being ones own sysadmin that I don’t think “don’t have the time” is a valid excuse anymore. It’s not just push messages, it’s everything - as you point out:

    This is just one important issue or source of exploitation among a sea of others.

    Sure. And most people I offered a free Nextcloud account to said the same. And Mastodon/Friendica-accounts. And so on. It’s like a technological mass depression, we can’t do everything we need to so there’s no point doing anything at all.

    And today I’m running a custom ROM and no push services from Big Data while they’re literally getting robbed of their phonebooks by Meta.











  • Because people might want to have a look at a platform before considering moving to it, and they would consider it because they wouldn’t be afraid of missing out on their usual content.

    I’m confused about the difference between a lurker and someone requiring an account, yet don’t want to interact with the community. Why can’t people who leave a platform and create a new identity “lurk”/browse the old place for content, no matter if leaving reddit or lemmy?

    I’m not so sure, there are more spectrums and gradations than clear-cut groups.

    You’re right in the way that it’s subjective - your perspective is as valid as mine. My own preferences still stand, I don’t want to interact with current reddit regulars.



  • I don’t see the point replying to you any more, you seemingly overlook the points I’m trying to make in a sort of “the goal justifies the means” argumentation. But others might find it interesting.

    No identity is being “stolen”. The mirrors are not doing anything on behalf of the users, and no content is being altered.

    It’s copying content belonging to a different entity without permission and presents them on a third party site without enough clarification to be distinguishable from the original account (many have expressed confusion at replying to “mirrored”/ghost accounts). It’s not a content viewer like teddit etc. It’s copying the content and presenting it for itself.

    I hope people understand how it can be argued for it being a stolen identity, even if one personally doesn’t agree with it.

    Go to /r/redditalternatives and let me know how many people simply don’t understand the concept of instances. Or understand the concept of instances, but didn’t want to bother with the process of finding out which one to choose. Or went with the “just go to lemmy.world” approach, got burned because it was struggling to deal with the influx of people and thought “Aw, Lemmy sucks”. Or took the time to find an instance, but after signing up had no idea how to find (re-)discover all their niche communities.

    Sure these are issues, but I still don’t think it’s ethical to present “claim your account now!” to users. It comes across as borderline extortionate to me. I don’t think it’s ethical to apply “peer pressure” by having regular users clamor for people to claim their accounts.