As someone who had to learn Java for a CompSci class in college, I respectfully request you censor all Java code from this point forwards… We shouldn’t have to see such disgusting filth on the open internet!

Brave Search also returns results for it just fine as well. Which makes sense given they run with their own indexing now (with fallbacks to Google and Bing only when requested).

Nooo! D:

Same old story, GrapheneOS’s self-rightousness has caused them grief before (plenty of times actually), and this is just another example of it. Compare and contrast with something like CalyxOS, or even just Vanilla LineageOS, and it’s night and day for being able to support more devices and be less reliant on Google. And I say that as a guy who loves his Pixel 6 Pro with CalyxOS.

GOS is a great idea, and I’m glad it exists, but ultimately they are their own worst enemies about a lot of things. Micay obviously wasn’t the whole issue there either (though he certainly bears a lot of responsibility for what made Graphene and its community so toxic for several years too…).

Helix is bae, the best if both worlds, of both Emacs and Vim.

Well, their username does check out.

Umm… How old is this meme? You haven’t (really) able to play PC/Steam games on Mac for a while… Also, XFCE hasn’t been a serious contender for a DE (save for a lower end hardware spec) for quite a while now.

This meme might have made more sense if it was comparing to Windows. Comparing it to a Mac now is comical, especially since a lot of Adobe software doesn’t work quite right yet on M* series Mac’s yet (though it is better than at launch).

Huh? That ain’t what I meant at all… I’m sticking with Pixel for my next upgrade, there’s not much that could make me change my mind. If for some reason Pixel died next year, I’d probably switch to OnePlus (if I can find a good ROM for it that’s as good as CalyxOS), but I can’t say I’d be happy about it.

Uhh, yeah no… A phone with a processor that’s equivalent to something from like 4 generations ago isn’t gonna cut it. Even then, that processor would be less powerful than the Tensor G1 in my Pixel 6 Pro. If you’re concerned about data sharing, just get a Pixel and put CalyxOS or GrapheneOS on it. More secure anyways, and you still get much better hardware along with it.

Yeah… My Pixel 6 Pro is the best phone I’ve ever had, and I don’t even intended to upgrade until the Pixel 11 at least. So, you’re just wrong.

Honestly, people are mostly* blaming the victim here. I used to adore playing Geoguessr years ago, but that came to an end when a subscription was needed to play it. That came about because Google started charging exorbitant prices for the Google Maps and Streetview API.

*Yeah, the other issues like lacking features and not using the subscription from the website are dumb, and shouldn’t have been a thing for the Steam release. But the core issue of the subscription? The fault for that lies squarely with Google…

Yeah, Neo Launcher is really good. Even though its still in its beta right now, the full release is coming soon. I consider it an upgrade over Lawnchair, and honestly probably the best open alternative to Nova (rip) overall.

+1 from me as well. I almost never have issues with Bitwarden. And when I do its usually in apps that don’t allow autofill in a normalish way. So I’m not sure thays really Google’s or Bitwarden’s fault, but the app developers…

Yeah, if you don’t mind it possibly taking a week to download something… Really like the idea, but in practice it’s very slow for something like that, unless you got a lot of seeders for something maybe.

It’s great seeing HeliBoard come so far, especially after it seemed like OpenBoard was potentially dead. I’m still a (firewalled on CalyxOS) GBoard user, but HeliBoard is the closest I’ve found to a viable replacement for it. I’m definitely looking forward to seeing what future developments it has in store.

I learned something today… and I’m not better off for having learned it. What a dumb ass virtue signal to use on something.

Wanted patent protections for myself mostly. I know the Apache 2.0 is best well-known for that, but I tend to prefer the simplicity of the BSD licenses. More so curious why the BSD 2-Clause was chosen for that Patent clause and not the BSD 3-Clause. Just seems odd to me. I updated my original post with more info.

You are correct, yeah. I updated my post with more info on what I was asking about, plus the text of the two licenses.

This is absolutely true. The Fairphone kinda gets around this since its got open parts and can be user serviced for most things, but the honest question for that is how many are gonna go to that trouble, not next week when your phone is still new, but 5 years from now? The dedicated certainly will and I commend Fairphone for it, but a lot of average folks with a slower phone are gonna want to upgrade at that point.

Really, it’s gonna depend on what your top priorities are. I run a Pixel 6 Pro with CalyxOS and I love it. But for you, it depends on whether you really need top security or want to go for a more open and long term design (which may not be entirely beneficial or all that special now).

For the Pixel 8, you’re gonna get much better cameras and more of those “Pixel Features” even when running something like GOS or CalyxOS. Its really nice cause you can even use GBoard and GCam and just firewall them (or however you do the equivalent in GOS), so you get the benefits without the downsides. Though it will be more expensive too.

With Fairphone, you’re gonna get a more open design that likely will last longer. That said, it doesn’t have a top end processor in it, so you have to imagine what it’ll be like in 6-8 years trying to run Android 20. Longevity is nice, but not as helpful if it can’t keep up physically with new releases. Also, with the Pixel 8 line now set to be supported for 8 years, it kinda… Undermines the Fairphone argument somewhat, though not to a huge degree.

Personally, if it were me, I’d choose the Pixel (and also choose CalyxOS as well, but that’s more a personal choice, don’t let the Graphene folks try and sway you with a bunch of FUD. CalyxOS is just fine, but GOS is a good choice too). It will have higher quality hardware, the processor should be able to handle tougher workloads into the future, and I think you’ll quite like the experience.

But, the Fairphone isn’t a bad choice either, and its definitely supporting a better ecosystem overall. It just won’t have as good of cameras and may not run as well a few years down the road, which could be an issue for the longevity. It can also run CalyxOS as well, so you won’t be missing out on using most other normal apps.

Really, it just depends on your use case and priorities. I don’t think you can go absolutely wrong choosing either one though.