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Well they have now, damn. Thanks for the info

I genuinely think they’re just incompetent lol

You should see the windows xp source code

Tux… What have they done to you…

They’re a centrist lmao

The main problem is that, even more so than the past, people’s politics is their identity.

It’s their family, their church life, their friends, and possibly even their neighbors if they live in a particularly conservative area. The same is true for liberals.

Trying to change them is quite literally like trying to change how they were raised, who they associate with, etc. In some cases, they may even be ostracized for “changing sides” if people found out.

It’s just not feasible.

Fact-checking deadass doesn’t work anymore, unfortunately. A lot of these people are anti-science and anti-equality.

And if not that, then they just care so much about being a “good Christian” that they are willing to look the other way and ignore evidence.

I’ve always said that I envied people who can just believe in a religion without immediately being disillusioned. I’m out here just rawdogging existential dread. Lol

I don’t think you understand people or the United States very well. What you are suggesting is to make a 2nd Virginia Tech incident happen. They’ve already started brutally dismantling protests. To resist is to commit suicide.

When they get a whiff of protestors carrying weapons, we will have a tiananmen square on our hands. The media will watch, and nothing will happen. Again.

I feel like everyone that heard that theory stopped to think about it. Maybe some people took it seriously, but at the least people entertained the idea for a second.

Le reddit moment

What is it with vegans and comparing literally everything to veganism? I was in another thread and it was compared to genocide, rape, and climate change all in the same thread. Insanity

Imo, Kant’s principles don’t really apply in this scenario, the Categorical Imperative applies to human-to-human treatment. Kant’s primary principle is act as such it would become universal law. Animal consumption is already a universal law.

Murder (of a human) is wrong because when applied universally, then society collapses. Theft is wrong because when applied universally, the right of property, and therefore society, collapses.

Animal consumption doesn’t cause societal collapse.

Thoughts?

Nah, I’m pro Palestine. I just think comparing the genocide to animal slaughter is a little tone deaf.

People aren’t ignoring climate change though, and I would generally think that’s because it’s an existential threat. You’re comparing apples and oranges.

Speedrun comparing anti-veganism to the Holocaust any% WR

I mean I would say they probably don’t know because they aren’t sapient, but sure.

You aren’t going to change industrialized factory farming abuse by berating and lecturing people on Lemmy. People are just going to be more annoyed by your cause. I don’t even entirely disagree with you, to be honest.

Are you actually comparing climate change to animal abuse? Lol

At the very least I’d say people are significantly more aware and receptive to climate change.

Look, I don’t disagree with your point necessarily, but you’re not winning over literally anyone in this thread. It’s just not happening.

Nobody ever has been convinced that dairy is rape and meat is murder by some Lemmy user saying “dairy is rape” and following up with “because it is”.

Most obviously, your primary argument is consequentialism, which many people just don’t see as a valid form of ethics. Many people subscribe to deontology instead, and so they don’t see it as rape because they are not obtaining sexual gratification from artificial insemination or drinking milk.

I think I’ve seen it used in the same, albeit incorrect, context before to be fair.