My position of not bombing the houthis after they made a threat? No one has explicitly made that stance, but outside of the chud group chat no one was calling for this strike either. Because nobody cares, so we can assume they would be fine with letting the threat go and focusing on other things. If they weren’t fine with “letting the terrorist get away with it” they wouldve said so.
If your asking about non-interventionism in general that’s a common belief most left leaning politicians have that aren’t captured by the military industrial complex. Bernie sanders supports limiting our drone program.
“What you can argue is that there are times and places where drone attacks have been effective,” he added.
“There are times and places where they have been absolutely counter-effective and have caused more problems than they have solved. When you kill innocent people, what the end result is that people in the region become anti-American who otherwise would not have been.”
I don’t think he would approve of bombing an apartment complex to kill a couple houthis. But who cares what he says, he’s just one of the most popular democrats out there right now and leading rallies with 10s of thousands of people in attendance.
Ffs, did you read my comment, I never said Bernie supported the houthis, I said he’s against bombing an apartment building to kill one houthi. I don’t support the houthis, I wish another group was in power in Yemen, but bombing them, as Saudi Arabia has shown, won’t lead to that and just further entrenches them.
If you want to get rid of the houthis, leave them alone. Let there shitty government collapse under the weight of its incompetency, corruption and unpopularity. Let the people focus on how shitty they are instead of letting them point to the US and Israel and how many muslims we’ve killed and recruit even more people to fight the west.
You don’t support the Houthis, but you assert they’re doing the right thing by attacking international shipping to spite Israel, don’t think we should do anything to stop them and that we should let them get away with attacking us.
Wtf kind of George Bush “you’re with us or against us” logic is this. Just because you don’t support BOMBING APARTMENT BUILDINGS to kill one person doesn’t mean you support there cause. Do you support Israel and there genocide because you don’t want to bomb the knesset to try and stop it? Are all the people calling for a ceasefire hamas supporters because they don’t want to do everything it takes to destroy hamas after Oct 7th?
I never said they’re doing the right thing by attacking international shipping, I think they should be more targeted and only go after Israeli arms shipments, but should let neutral countries pass.
I do think we should do something to stop them, by stopping arms shipments to israel and pushing them towards a ceasefire. You don’t seem to support anything to stop them, because again these bombings don’t stop them. The houthis stopped attacking ships during the ceasefire, they didn’t stop attacking them after we bombed them multiple times, one method has been shown to work, while the other has been shown to only help arms sales and houthi recruitment.
Well you did just say you support the Houthis attacking Israelis, so you are rather proving my point.
They haven’t fired any rockets since the last bombing.
The Houthis are murderous terrorist slavers. I do not trust them. I do not care what they want. I want them dead. I may not support Israel’s war effort, but that does not justify the Houthis attacking us. They have chosen to make themselves the enemies of America and I expect them to be treated as such.
They haven’t fired any rockets since the last bombing.
They did a drone strike on tel Aviv and a us warship three days ago, again bombing isn’t going to stop them from attacking us. This just leads to Yemeni rallying around the flag against the west. If you hate the houthis as much as you say you do you should be against killing civilians, that only fuels there movement.
You seem to view the houthis as a small group of bad guys and once you kill all of them they’ll be gone. They aren’t, they’re a movement against the west, and bombings by the west that kill civilians only help that movement.
If you want the houthis to stop attacking us, make Israel stop bombing gaza, it’s the only way that has worked. If you want the houthis to cease to exist, stop bombing civilians in Yemen. Saudi Arabia tried your strategy of bombing the houthis for 2 years and it didn’t work, why do you think it’ll work now?
You keep insisting that you’re not on their side, but you do insist we more or less are morally obligated to let them try to kill us without responding.
Furthermore, you demonstrate a clear double standard in your argument. If the only logical response to being bombed by the West is to attack Westerners, then doesn’t it stand to reason that the logical response to being attacked by the Houthis is to attack the Houthis? It’s the same as the arguments defending Hamas. You treat the Arabs as if they’re too stupid to try diplomacy while arguing we are morally obligated to endure being attacked by them.
Show me five people who support your position that have won elections in the United States.
My position of not bombing the houthis after they made a threat? No one has explicitly made that stance, but outside of the chud group chat no one was calling for this strike either. Because nobody cares, so we can assume they would be fine with letting the threat go and focusing on other things. If they weren’t fine with “letting the terrorist get away with it” they wouldve said so.
If your asking about non-interventionism in general that’s a common belief most left leaning politicians have that aren’t captured by the military industrial complex. Bernie sanders supports limiting our drone program.
I don’t think he would approve of bombing an apartment complex to kill a couple houthis. But who cares what he says, he’s just one of the most popular democrats out there right now and leading rallies with 10s of thousands of people in attendance.
Bernie Sanders does not support the Houthis.
Ffs, did you read my comment, I never said Bernie supported the houthis, I said he’s against bombing an apartment building to kill one houthi. I don’t support the houthis, I wish another group was in power in Yemen, but bombing them, as Saudi Arabia has shown, won’t lead to that and just further entrenches them.
If you want to get rid of the houthis, leave them alone. Let there shitty government collapse under the weight of its incompetency, corruption and unpopularity. Let the people focus on how shitty they are instead of letting them point to the US and Israel and how many muslims we’ve killed and recruit even more people to fight the west.
You don’t support the Houthis, but you assert they’re doing the right thing by attacking international shipping to spite Israel, don’t think we should do anything to stop them and that we should let them get away with attacking us.
Right.
Wtf kind of George Bush “you’re with us or against us” logic is this. Just because you don’t support BOMBING APARTMENT BUILDINGS to kill one person doesn’t mean you support there cause. Do you support Israel and there genocide because you don’t want to bomb the knesset to try and stop it? Are all the people calling for a ceasefire hamas supporters because they don’t want to do everything it takes to destroy hamas after Oct 7th?
I never said they’re doing the right thing by attacking international shipping, I think they should be more targeted and only go after Israeli arms shipments, but should let neutral countries pass.
I do think we should do something to stop them, by stopping arms shipments to israel and pushing them towards a ceasefire. You don’t seem to support anything to stop them, because again these bombings don’t stop them. The houthis stopped attacking ships during the ceasefire, they didn’t stop attacking them after we bombed them multiple times, one method has been shown to work, while the other has been shown to only help arms sales and houthi recruitment.
Well you did just say you support the Houthis attacking Israelis, so you are rather proving my point.
They haven’t fired any rockets since the last bombing.
The Houthis are murderous terrorist slavers. I do not trust them. I do not care what they want. I want them dead. I may not support Israel’s war effort, but that does not justify the Houthis attacking us. They have chosen to make themselves the enemies of America and I expect them to be treated as such.
They did a drone strike on tel Aviv and a us warship three days ago, again bombing isn’t going to stop them from attacking us. This just leads to Yemeni rallying around the flag against the west. If you hate the houthis as much as you say you do you should be against killing civilians, that only fuels there movement.
You seem to view the houthis as a small group of bad guys and once you kill all of them they’ll be gone. They aren’t, they’re a movement against the west, and bombings by the west that kill civilians only help that movement.
If you want the houthis to stop attacking us, make Israel stop bombing gaza, it’s the only way that has worked. If you want the houthis to cease to exist, stop bombing civilians in Yemen. Saudi Arabia tried your strategy of bombing the houthis for 2 years and it didn’t work, why do you think it’ll work now?
You keep insisting that you’re not on their side, but you do insist we more or less are morally obligated to let them try to kill us without responding.
Furthermore, you demonstrate a clear double standard in your argument. If the only logical response to being bombed by the West is to attack Westerners, then doesn’t it stand to reason that the logical response to being attacked by the Houthis is to attack the Houthis? It’s the same as the arguments defending Hamas. You treat the Arabs as if they’re too stupid to try diplomacy while arguing we are morally obligated to endure being attacked by them.