Pretty sure all of them will have forms that can be filled to allow access to felons with approval of the border services, it’s the case in Canada and is the process that Bush had to go through to visit and that Trump will have to go through to visit as well. He will be let in, but the paperwork will have to be filled.
White tie is a level of formality above black tie. He might probably a diplomat honoring him as head of state rather than as the head of Catholic Church.
Dark blue should count as a “dark suit”, shouldn’t it? If the expectation was “wear a black suit”, then the rule should have been “wear a black suit”.
Even just having to wear a suit at all is stupid: “You must wear a special kind of jacket that doesn’t properly close in front, creating a little window through which people can see the shirt you’re wearing underneath, and a ribbon of pretty fabric you wear draped around your neck.”
Meanwhile, women are allowed to just use reasonable discretion as long as they’re wearing a dress. The style of dress isn’t specified (but of course most women will interpret it as “show a little bit of bare chest, but not too much, because it’s a funeral”)
I wonder if future people will see the suit and tie and think about it similarly to how we look at paintings of people from the 17th century wearing Ruffs, and concluding that they looked silly. I sure do think ties look silly.
Ties are especially ironic because they derived from a time when buttons - made by necessity out of rare items like ivory or whale bone - were expensive as fuck and it was cheaper to close up your neck with a strip of scrap fabric. Most people today can afford plastic buttons.
Suit/tie combo has been the focul point of men’s fashion longer than any other style(in western culture at least). It’s remained more or less the same for over 100 years
I think suit/tie and dresses are the only type of clothing every human will recognize for as long as civilization as we know it doesn’t crumble. You could show someone from 100300 years ago, a suit or a dress from today, and they would know what it was
I agree if the expectation was for people to wear black only, then the text of the code should have said “black” and not “dark.”
Formal Dress Codes suck, but at the least the events are usually short and you can at least take off the tie and jacket, maybe roll up the shirt sleeves if they’re long.
Where do you draw the line between black and grey? Dark should mean black or dark grey. Although the reality is that nothing is truly black, one of the closest we’ve seen is Vanta Black.
Doesn’t matter if they still let him go even though he doesn’t respect the dress code.
How does a 34-count felon pass through the countries?
The same way sewage usually passes though countries I would imagine.
Many nations do not allow convicted felons to visit. Italy is not one of them.
Pretty sure all of them will have forms that can be filled to allow access to felons with approval of the border services, it’s the case in Canada and is the process that Bush had to go through to visit and that Trump will have to go through to visit as well. He will be let in, but the paperwork will have to be filled.
He counts that as a win. MF lives for shit like this. Look up all the petty shit he did when he bought Mar-a-lago.
Is a dark blue suit not a “dark suit?” Trump isn’t even the only person wearing a dark blue suit in this picture:
What’s with the dude wearing the white bowtie?
Looks like he’s also wearing a tailcoat. That’s maximum formality. I assume as an indication of maximum respect. Probably not planning to tapdance.
White tie is a level of formality above black tie. He might probably a diplomat honoring him as head of state rather than as the head of Catholic Church.
A Secret Server.
I fucking hate formalwear rules.
Dark blue should count as a “dark suit”, shouldn’t it? If the expectation was “wear a black suit”, then the rule should have been “wear a black suit”.
Even just having to wear a suit at all is stupid: “You must wear a special kind of jacket that doesn’t properly close in front, creating a little window through which people can see the shirt you’re wearing underneath, and a ribbon of pretty fabric you wear draped around your neck.”
Meanwhile, women are allowed to just use reasonable discretion as long as they’re wearing a dress. The style of dress isn’t specified (but of course most women will interpret it as “show a little bit of bare chest, but not too much, because it’s a funeral”)
All the women pictured here are wearing black in the strictest sense of the color what in the fuck are you even rambling about
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I wonder if future people will see the suit and tie and think about it similarly to how we look at paintings of people from the 17th century wearing Ruffs, and concluding that they looked silly. I sure do think ties look silly.
Ties are especially ironic because they derived from a time when buttons - made by necessity out of rare items like ivory or whale bone - were expensive as fuck and it was cheaper to close up your neck with a strip of scrap fabric. Most people today can afford plastic buttons.
Suit/tie combo has been the focul point of men’s fashion longer than any other style(in western culture at least). It’s remained more or less the same for over 100 years
Of course it will be seen as silly. Most people are just too used to them to see them that way today.
It’s like seeing judges wearing wigs and robes. At one point that was just normal formalwear, but it looks really goofy now.
I think suit/tie and dresses are the only type of clothing every human will recognize for as long as civilization as we know it doesn’t crumble. You could show someone from
100300 years ago, a suit or a dress from today, and they would know what it wasThe suit is a 20th century invention.
Someone might “know what it was”, i.e. it’s a jacket that doesn’t close properly and matching pants. But, they didn’t exist until the 20th century.
It’s a matter of time before they finally go out of fashion, and people look at them like we look at men wearing tights and shirts with puffy sleeves.
Nah. It was invented in the 17th century.
Edit: and the suits from the 18th century look almost exactly the same as ours https://myhistoryfix.com/fashion/mens-suits-history/
You think suits from the 18th century look almost exactly the same as ours?
“Clothes-Optional” funerals are a blast when everyone is 73.
I agree if the expectation was for people to wear black only, then the text of the code should have said “black” and not “dark.”
Formal Dress Codes suck, but at the least the events are usually short and you can at least take off the tie and jacket, maybe roll up the shirt sleeves if they’re long.
Where do you draw the line between black and grey? Dark should mean black or dark grey. Although the reality is that nothing is truly black, one of the closest we’ve seen is Vanta Black.
Cartoonist Michael Leunig (r.i.p.) called them the ‘business burkha’ and I’ve thought of them as such ever since.